Attempted assassination on Trump

Obviously not.

Somebody who was "top notch" would not have left the roof unsecured.
Somebody even minimally competent would have seen the issue. The US govt has entire manuals about counter sniper operations. We're not talking about a guy who low crawled through high grass for half a day in a ghile suit or had prepared a sniper hide somewhere.

Nor would they have taken multiple minutes to respond to warnings from the public.

These people have radios. The people standing next to Trump don't need to personally see the shooter. You establish a codeword. You test all your radios. It should take one word over the radio for the SS to take action.

This was at best a clown show of incompetence.

Given that the J6 comitte was so contemptible and evil as to talk about taking Trump's SS protection away, why shouldn't I believe that Mayorkas (or similar) quietly slipped the stupidest, most useless people on his team deliberately?

The ~5'5"ft tall SS agent working close protection for a 6'3" person was just another bonus stupid. They stand him up and his head is completely visible.

Then you have the idiocy of standing him back up within seconds after he was just shot. Maybe take a minute and see if this guy had any friends before potentially exposing him to more gunfire.

If you watch the video you'll see everyone around Trump is all looking in one direction after the shooting. Understandable for non professionals, but really unprofessional for someone whose job this is. They're supposed to drill for this. After 30 seconds or so they get their act together and start covering 360 degrees, but they screw up and create the perfect window for a second shooter for 30 seconds.

Hell, I'm not even ex military or LE. I bet your typical marine gunnery sargent could list 15 things they screwed up off the top of their head.

The January 6th comittee DID NOT suggest removing Donald Trump's Secret Service detail. It is flat wrong to say this.

However, Rep. Bennie Thompson, a member of the committee, in his own capacity, introduced legislation known as the DISGRACED Act his bill, introduced in April 2024, has not been enacted yet and has faced criticism from some members of Congress who argue that all former presidents should retain Secret Service protection regardless of their legal status.

Of course he has to retain some protection but who can ask a secret service agent to vow to protect a disgraced individual with their very life? It would be better if he was only protected by those who volunteered and if nobody in the secret service was willing, he would have to make his own arrangements.

Perhaps Trump was mostly just getting the agents who were volunteering and this is what caused the poor performance at the rally. We will know in time.

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So many words, so little sense.
I dont really follow or "invest" in politics the way you do. I dont see return in politics and to be sooo invested in politics makes me wonder...

You get highly triggered and spend so much energy on your political views. It gets very old here on a Traders Forum.

I used to read your comments regarding trading..but now, I cant even do that
 
I dont really follow or "invest" in politics the way you do. I dont see return in politics and to be sooo invested in politics makes me wonder...

You get highly triggered and spend so much energy on your political views. It gets very old here on a Traders Forum.

I used to read your comments regarding trading..but now, I cant even do that
For someone who doesn't care about politics you sure spend a lot of time in the dedicated forums.
 
Please correct my confusion :) Your profile says that you are a male from Germany however you made the statement "Did you know that Hitler was, mostly, a socialist??"

Nobody from Germany I have ever met questions that the word socialist in NAZI was anything other than a bait-and-switch by fascists who knew it was politically expedient post first World War. Their arch enemies were socialist who they called "Marxist".

They did not call them SINOs. They used much harsher language for socialists and communists. There were at least 42 plots to kill Hitler and many by the socialists.
Since it sparked a candid response already I might weigh in.

First, a Hitler quote: "I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists"

Also Hitler: Sent thousands of political opponents, a large proportion of whom actual socialists, to death camps.

Hitler certainly had some overlapping ideas with e.g. Marx. He was however above all preoccupied with race and the imagined superiority of his nation and race over others.

So, saying that "Did you know that Hitler was, mostly, a nationalist?" or "Did you know that Hitler was, mostly, a white supremacist?" would be accurate to larger degree. The Germans didn't elect him because of socialism. Nor was it the driving basis for him killing tens of millions (unlike in the Soviet Union and Mao's China where e.g. 'class struggle' and weird economic ideas were strongly contributing causes).
You trying to rewrite history ? Hitler was far right not a socialist. In fact, he tried to kill off all the communists in Germany ( plus the Jews, handicapped people, intellectuals, ... ). Trump like Hitler would run a facist regime with no elections if he were able to do so.


Ok,
so by all your definition,

a socialist cannot be a fascist.

Enlightning.

What a foolish bs.

Yes - socialists/communists (the party) were totally in confrontation with the NSDAP (Hitler).

Does not make them being democratic!

They still were dictatoric, still wanted ALL the power; just like in S.U.


However, their electorate (!) had no problem swing-voting.
They just waited, who will be the ruler (H. or Stalin), to then get under his umbrella...

And they had no problem feeling GOOD under Hitler.

In addition, they are totally adoptable: They can go with 'we judge by skin colour' as well as 'we are The International';
does not matter, as long as they get their will.

Which is a socialistic, everybody is the same, society.

Without the right to possess material things/land, and without real indiv. rights.

And this is the real threat of socialism.


And today, I see the same stuff happening in america, by a large fraction:

Socialist powers, gathering together, forming street force,
to then storm public buildings, to pursue their opponents, and even, as we saw yesterday, KILL.


The reaction we saw during Trumps time in office.,
AND after it as well!


America has a HUGE socialist communist problem,
where the colour of your skin always plays a huge role.

Which is somewhat strange...

Aren't they saying that the skin colour shouldn't play a vital role (?)

Same goes for sexual orienatation, and how the average citizen is being harassed with their 'ideas'.


Or do you want to call those socialist marxist "protestors" chanting anit semitic, anti american slurs all over the country, educated leftists & non-radicals ?

You want to sell me an egg as an apple, as we say...


BTW: Don't confuse them with original socialist advocates, that thought for real workers & civil rights, without seeking to change/dictate the society or starting revolutions.
The social movement actually has a noble root, but History tells a different evolution; at least when it comes to organized socialism (structural socialism).
 
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Ok,
so by all your definition,

a socialist cannot be a fascist.

Enlightning.

What a foolish bs.

Yes - socialists/communists (the party) were totally in confrontation with the NSDAP (Hitler).

Does not make them being democratic!

They still were dictatoric, still wanted ALL the power; just like in S.U.


However, their electorate (!) had no problem swing-voting.
They just waited, who will be the ruler (H. or Stalin), to then get under his umbrella...

And they had no problem feeling GOOD under Hitler.

In addition, they are totally adoptable: They can go with 'we judge by skin colour' as well as 'we are The International';
does not matter, as long as they get their will.

Which is a socialistic, everybody is the same, society.

Without the right to possess material things/land, and without real indiv. rights.

And this is the real threat of socialism.


And today, I see the same stuff happening in america, by a large fraction:

Socialist powers, gathering together, forming street force,
to then storm public buildings, to pursue their opponents, and even, as we saw yesterday, KILL.


The reaction we saw during Trumps time in office.,
AND after it as well!


America has a HUGE socialist communist problem,
where the colour of your skin always plays a huge role.

Which is somewhat strange...

Aren't they saying that the skin colour shouldn't play a vital role (?)

Same goes for sexual orienatation, and how the average citizen is being harassed with their 'ideas'.


Or do you want to call those socialist marxist "protestors" chanting anit semitic, anti american slurs all over the country, educated leftists & non-radicals ?

You want to sell me an egg as an apple, as we say...


BTW: Don't confuse them with original socialist advocates, that thought for real workers & civil rights, without seeking to change/dictate the society or starting revolutions.
The social movement actually has a noble root, but History tells a different evolution; at least when it comes to organized socialism (structural socialism).


Dunning Krueger all over this post.

Let the grownups talk, while you watch porn hub and masturbate in your mom's basement.
 
Dunning Krueger all over this post.

Let the grownups talk, while you watch porn hub and masturbate in your mom's basement.
Any real arguments?


Maybe you should put the palestinian flag into your profile ... (?)
 
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