Quote from traderNik:
Yeah, it's always hilarious to listen to the ID'ers (didn't you know that's how they've rebranded themselves?) talk about how unlikely it is that life evolved from a biological soup. Ah, I see... so you feel it's more likely that a supernatural being waved a magic wand and POOF!!!! - a human being was walking around. Or, as the local troll put it recently
"Magistrates (were) materialized out of pure potentiality"
(Of course he later recanted this statement, but you get the picture).
Anyhow, seneca... if you're actually new around here, you'll soon learn that it does no good whatsoever to try to engage creationists in a dialectical process. Their beliefs are informed by faith, and when that is the case, nothing, even death, will shake the true believer. Our beliefs are informed by the process of asking questions and seeking knowledge -when knowledge is immanent, no proofs are necessary.
You want to talk about hilarity? How about the dedicated scientists who proved that we were entering a new ice age in the 1970's. Then, a generation later, they are absolutely convinced that we are entering a global meltdown, all based on the strictest scientific evidence, mind you. Next, they will be saying.....well you get the idea. Of course anybody who does not fall for their ideas is...just...not ....a...sophisticate.
Maybe when Hitler's scientists were doing there scientific experiments on children, you know, amputating limbs to see what types of changes would result, they were gathering just the type of valuable information that enables you to feel so self satisfied.
How's the dialectical process so far?
And then the great, or so called great scientist carl sagan figured out how to deal with a perplexing problem that has stymied all of science for eons. What is that problem, you ask? Why, the fact that scientists have no plausible idea whatsoever about how or why the big bang took place. But, you see, this creates a monumental problem called the law of the first cause. Something had to cause the big bang and scientists don't have any satisfactory explanations. In fact, thier explanations don't even rise to the level of being called unsatisfactory. They are just plain idiotic. (By the way, have you ever heard the phrase...let their be light?) So, the esteemed scientist sagan realized what a corner he and his fellow non-believers were in and....viola, he simply makes the universe a deity. Yes, an always existant, eternal thing without beginning and without end. This is why he Capitalizes the word cosmos. It is his deity. Guess he is one of the fundies afterall.
Of course you athiests are absolutely certain that everything does not produce after it's own kind, and therefore you do not have to worry about your sin resulting in death. Your sin, obviously, will evolve into life and you can therefore engage in the darkest of depravity, blissfully, forever. Gee, I'd like to have some apples in a few years in my back yard. Guess I'll plant an orange tree ....it just may evolve into an apple tree.
Now, like Brando said, why don't you use all your talents and all your abilities to try and engage me in the dialectical process. Please start with the really important things, you know, like my spelling. It will give you that really satisfying community college feeling that you have accomplished something.
Please feel free to visit that great sinkhole of wisdom known as the daily kos for some excellent scientific insight.
cheers
