Atlanta PD Fatally Shoots Black Man in the Back

It is a neck restraint. Along with a choke hold; both were perfectly allowed by the Minneapolis police department until the city council voted to not allow them after the incident.

I'm assuming you have the policy where both were allowed? Because I'd like to see the portion of the police policy that states this pressure should be applied well beyond the point where the suspect has been subdued and is completely incapacitated.
 
Let's get back to the one question - tell us what Officer Chauvin was fired for? Tell us the exact cause for his firing.

Hint - it was not for violating police department policy for using a neck restraint. The police union would have easily reversed the firing decision if these grounds were used.

Please note that I am NOT saying what Chauvin did was in any way right in my opinion. But my opinion and the rules for policing standards can differ. The legal system standards can also differ from police department standards - which is why he is standing trial for murder. Quite rightfully in my opinion.


He put his knee on the neck of a person who was in handcuffs and already restrained for over 8 minutes while the person was complaining he could not breath. Nothing in the manual allows that so he was fired for the use of force and callous disregard for a human being.

You are saying the manual allows chokeholds to restrain a suspect but it does not say you can hold the chokehold indefinitely until the person dies.

You are really digging in deep here for something that is not really an opinion. Nothing in the manual allows this officer to do what he did. He was not following orders because no one was asking him to knee neck the guy for 8 minutes. He was fired for excessive force that led to the death of a person. Plain and simple. No union is going to step in and claim that he was allowed to do that.
 
I'm assuming you have the policy where both were allowed? Because I'd like to see the portion of the police policy that states this pressure should be applied well beyond the point where the suspect has been subdued and is completely incapacitated.


Exactly. GWB is trying to play the role of amazingly cute lawyer arguing a word and it is simply incorrect.

A knee to the neck is not warranted in the manual to detain a suspect for 8 minutes after he is already handcuffed and on his stomach unable to move.

It is like saying a choke hold is allowed and I can put you in a choke hold for 10 minutes and then say after you die, well the manual says I can use a choke hold so NOT GUILTY!
 
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He put his knee on the neck of a person who was in handcuffs and already restrained for over 8 minutes while the person was complaining he could not breath. Nothing in the manual allows that so he was fired for the use of force and callous disregard for a human being.

You are saying the manual allows chokeholds to restrain a suspect but it does not say you can hold the chokehold indefinitely until the person dies.

You are really digging in deep here for something that is not really an opinion. Nothing in the manual allows this officer to do what he did. He was not following orders because no one was asking him to knee neck the guy for 8 minutes. He was fired for excessive force that led to the death of a person. Plain and simple. No union is going to step in and claim that he was allowed to do that.

Exactly. GWB is trying to play the role of amazingly cute lawyer arguing a word and it is simply incorrect.

A knee to the neck is not warranted in the manual to detain a suspect for 8 minutes after he is already handcuffed and on his stomach unable to move.

It is like saying a choke hold is allowed and I can put you in a choke hold for 10 minutes and then say after you die, well the manual says I can use a choke hold so NOT GUILTY!

Actually this gets into why he was fired. According to an earlier article posted on one of these ET threads it appears Derek Chauvin was fired for failing to summon or provide medical assistance in a timely manner resulting in death of someone under custody. He was not fired for using a department (and city) approved neck restraint.

I am "not trying to play lawyer" here. The article I posted from the other thread outlines much better than I ever could the grounds that Derek Chauvin will use in his defense.

My original comment was that IMO the case in Atlanta is more likely to lead to a conviction of the officer based on what occurred (based on the film from both incidents). The Atlanta case IMO where a suspect was shot twice in the back is much more straight forward than the Minneapolis case.

All of this being said - let me said once again I believe the officers in these two incidents should be held accountable by a jury.
 
Black men are 6.5% of the population and commit 54% of all murders.
Do the math.

Hateful men like you are more likely to commit a murder or a violent crime then any segment of the population artificially arranged in categories like colour of skin. Some guys like you join the force and needlessly kill black men.
 
Hateful men like you are more likely to commit a murder or a violent crime then any segment of the population artificially arranged in categories like colour of skin. Some guys like you join the force and needlessly kill black men.
Wrong of course. You are letting your emotions get in the way of the facts...typical libtard move. Maybe you want to burn down a business to vent?
 
You can't tell what happened when he was running in the video I have seen. If he turned around and pointed the taser at the cop, I would say it was justified, if he's just running then no. There has to be some responsibility taken though, if you get so fucked up you fall asleep in the drive through, fail a sobriety test, fight the cops tooth and nail punching them and stealing a taser, bad shit is going to happen. Not saying they should have shot the guy or not, depends on what happened out of view but damn, just during the fight that is a seriously life threatening situation for the cops, he could have got the gun rather than the taser.

All of the above packed in a one second decision is a super bad combo. I’ve made bad decisions after taking days to think about it imagine a millisecond.
 
Oh right because you're suddenly not a threat to anyone when you're retreating. Maybe criminals should rob liquor stores by walking in backwards. Incredible deductive logic on display here. A whole generation of hoodlums could develop better techniques for sprinting backwards so that they're constantly in retreat! Brilliant!



Almost like police vary between police precincts and policy for escalation is state-by-state and officer-by-officer.

Who would've thought? It couldn't be something as simple as that explains the discrepancy.

Backwards Hahahaha hahahahaha
 
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