Athiests...want evidence of God? Read here.

Mav88 · Dec 11, 2008

But while there is plenty of Hebrew-Christian evidence for faith;

evidence for faith! well that about sums up the intellectual fortitude of the theists.

stu · Dec 11, 2008

Quote from murray t turtle:

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Kut2;
I hope your/my trading has as much accuracy as our posts;
over a long period of time/lifetime.

But while there is plenty of Hebrew-Christian evidence for faith;
much study at all shows the Koran has not in the same accuracy as the Holy Bible.There is somewhat of a blessing on Ishmael[black gold.....]Ishmael is Abe's bastard kid.

Now faith is the substance......Hebrews 11;1a/Holy Bible
Substance means title deed. Non believers are simply like renters who chose not or are to ignorant to buy into a title deed;
or renters who fault find people who do have title deeds to real estate.

That really is just too crap for words. Going by what you say, your trading must truly suck.

Thunderdog · Dec 11, 2008

Quote from volente_00:

Nonsense. The religion called "science" ...

I think it is ironic that you are employing the products of scientific achievement to convey your disdain for the "religion of science."

volente_00 · Dec 11, 2008

Come on my atheist friends, I still await the answer to the simple question.

Why is it called scientific theory and not scientific fact ?

So far all I have seen is some pathetic ad hominem from the scholars.

I don't really expect anyone to answer it truthfully because the very answer is against all you stand for in your atheist religion.

volente_00 · Dec 11, 2008

Quote from Thunderdog:

I think it is ironic that you are employing the products of scientific achievement to convey your disdain for the "religion of science."

How is placing faith in a scientist's beliefs any different ?

If a theory is fact then why is it called scientific theory and not scientific fact.

Until it is tested and found 100% true, then it can be called the truth, till that happens it is nothing more than an assumption that science wants you to place faith in.

uptik2000 · Dec 11, 2008

Quote from peilthetraveler:

Ok...you want proof? Here it is. Imagine you are walking through a forest and you see a laptop computer sitting there in the middle of forest. This laptop is the most advanced piece of machinery you have ever seen. Upon closer inspection, you see that the laptop runs, not with a battery, but with clean water and also sunlight. Looking inside the laptop, you see that it has the smallest hard drive you have ever seen. Its storing information, the equivelent of 1 million pages of encyclopedias, and its being stored on a drive, that you can not see with your naked eye. not only that, you take your 1000x magnification light microscope and you see cant see the hard drive, but all that infomation is there once you use your electron microscope. This laptop is also so advanced it creates foods you can eat out of nothing! This computer is so advanced, there is no way that even the smartest men in the world could put their collective resources together, with a trillion dollar budget and come up with this stuff.

Here is a picture of this advanced computer http://www.flickr.com/photos/harthillsouth/2731965309/

Do you really want to tell me that you think there was a big explosion 13 billion years ago and this created itself?

Please send me what you're smoking.
Thanks,
Agnostic

dave74 · Dec 11, 2008

There are two types of people in the world.

The first believe the nearly infinite universe (indeed, we don't even know if the universe has an end) was created by an incomprehensibly gigantic explosion.

The second believe that all things were created by a God.

Smart Money · Dec 12, 2008

Quote from dave74:

There are two types of people in the world.

The first believe the nearly infinite universe (indeed, we don't even know if the universe has an end) was created by an incomprehensibly gigantic explosion.

The second believe that all things were created by a God.

What if you're like me and you believe that the incomprehensibly gigantic explosion was created by a God as part of the process? I mean, if you're going to make bread, you use flour, right? Eve was created from a rib. Wine was made from water. Lots of fishes and loaves were made from a few fishes and loaves. There are a many examples where God starts with something natural to make a miracle. Why can't the big bang and evolution be part of the process of creation?

SM

AlpineTrout · Dec 12, 2008

Quote from Cutten:

Complex systems and outcomes can arise from extremely simple processes, repeated ad infinitum. Billions of years is a long time, after all.

This single fact has eluded so many people , and will continue to elude many more in the future. Some simply cannot grasp this concept, no matter how you try to explain it to them.

acronym · Dec 12, 2008

But...but......they're tomato seeds!!!