Quote from Lucrum:
stewie is insisting the big bang theory is a proven, observable, verifiable scientific fact allowed for by some "law(s) of physics" he refuses to produce.
That's not true crummie. I've been saying no such thing.
And that comment of yours above demonstrates again what pretty much all your arguments are about throughout this thread. Misleading and misunderstanding.
Quote from Lucrum:
Actually my issue is mostly with him repeating over and over that the laws of physics allow for an entire universe to appear from NOTHING.
Well, the laws of physics do allow for a universe to begin from nothing . So what's the problem?
Oh - I know, you have no problem with the laws of physics, but you have a problem with which law(s) allow a universe to begin from nothing.
Like you have no problem with the laws of physics, but you DON'T have a problem with which law(s) allow gravity.
Look them up is what I said, because quite honestly, no amount of discussion about even the most straightforward aspects of scientific fact, the laws of physics, scientific theory or scientific theoretical physics about gravity, evolution or a universe from nothing is going to appeal to the necessity for misunderstanding in order to leave some spurious space for a supernatural creator.
Everything is "just a theory" isn't it, so that any real, useful scientific theory leading to practical knowledge can be dumbed down to the intellectual level of a mystical galactic beasty idea, in the absurd hope of making it sound just the tiniest bit possible.