Atheism

"Newton's scientific findings" are still "believably true and good", and very useful! Science involves the development, modification and rejection of models, usually expressed mathematically. We now recognize that Newton's laws are consistent with a special case of the current model.

Even special relativity after the first release was later improved/changed to general relativity after many years of hard work/ further research since Einstein himself knew it was Not Good "Enough" from the beginning!

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The bible is nothing but letters of the past!

You're saying bible people who "need to find from religious writings/thinking/sayings/traditions their relevance in modern life"....

....are fundamentalists!


It's noticeable how the religious like yourself do tend to talk in ever diminishing self-contradicting circles. :rolleyes:

Looking forward positively and gracefully without resorting to jesus,superstition and ....well....the nonsense of religion, is just so much more honest and dignified I suggest.

Guessing, particularly when involving bias or personal, does not help objective analysis! I think.

At least Jesus was not a religious fundamentalist, as far as I see. Of course, I could be very wrong! Just 2 cents!
 
once again we see many of the lefties on this site do not understand the difference between faith and fact.

believing in the multi verse or other universes takes faith
believing that life evolved from non life takes faith
believing that man made co2 is warming the earth takes faith.

why... because there is no peer reviewed science showing a multiverse or that life evolved from non life or that man made co2 causes warming.


similarly believing the bible is the inspired word of God takes faith.
believing Jesus is God takes faith. (by the way your statement heavily edited needs to be established and inconsistent has not really been established either)

before you can argue we are skeptical of peer reviewed science...
you need to produce some to support your arguments.

We are not necessarily skeptical of science we are skeptical that many on your team pretend your beliefs are scientific in the absence of peer reviewed science.








So if all the stuff about Jesus's super powers was made up as you say (walking on water and waking the dead, not to mention turning water into wine, feeding 5,000 people with 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish, healing the sick and rising from the dead himself), then who's to say that that's where the fabrication ended? Who's to say any reference to the supernatural in the Bible wasn't just woven from fertile imaginings? The Old Testament doesn't seem to be any more grounded in fact than the New one.

People are skeptical of nonpartisan government reports and peer-reviewed science, but are willing to accept at face value a series of supernatural stories in a book fraught with inconsistency and dating back a few thousand years?! A book heavily edited by a dictator/emperor who had his own son executed and his wife essentially boiled alive because he feared they were plotting against him? Yeah, makes sense.
 
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its not the Bible.

since you are the one who says Jesus never existed arguing that Jesus kills based on a book not in the bible is a pretty bogus argument.





It's Biblical Apocrypha - ancient books found within ancient books later edited into a prescribed canon called the Bible.

In Apocrypha, Jesus kills.

Just as it is with the folk lore, stories, proverbs, fables, myths and riddles, these ancient bible books are said to be true when they fit a desired narrative, and false when they don't.
 
If it is science, then there is no belief or need for faith in
'the multi verse or other universes,
that life evolved from non life,
that man made co2 is warming the earth'.

No faith in them if it is science. The physics, the math, the facts, ie the science, points to their presence.

It takes blind faith, usually blind religious faith, to refuse deny and feign the knowledge brought to everything through science.



once again we see many of the lefties on this site do not understand the difference between faith and fact.

believing in the multi verse or other universes takes faith
believing that life evolved from non life takes faith
believing that man made co2 is warming the earth takes faith.

why... because there is no peer reviewed science showing a multiverse or that life evolved from non life or that man made co2 causes warming.


similarly believing the bible is the inspired word of God takes faith.
believing Jesus is God takes faith. (by the way your statement heavily edited needs to be established and inconsistent has not really been established either)

before you can argue we are skeptical of peer reviewed science...
you need to produce some to support your arguments.

We are not necessarily skeptical of science we are skeptical that many on your team pretend your beliefs are scientific in the absence of peer reviewed science.
 
its not the Bible.

since you are the one who says Jesus never existed arguing that Jesus kills based on a book not in the bible is a pretty bogus argument.

What's in a name? That which is called a Bible by any other name would sound the same.
Apocrypha; written by man, edited by man and then called the Bible by man, in the name of god.

And Goldilocks never existed either, but no one in their right mind would say it's bogus argument to talk about her in anything else but The Three Bears.
 
Perhaps everyone on earth is a believer in something! Even a trader is a firm believer in her/his trading system/philosophy/theory/psychology!

An atheist is a believer in "No God".

imo, the world's problem of never-ending conflicts/wars has been too many many fundamentalists in believing merely their own faith according to their own rules/books, without any respecting others' faiths.

A better society i think should be an inclusive one! To enjoy the diversity of faiths and food/music/culture/etc/etc.

Therefore, rejecting the existence of God is also illogical/ meaningless, basically!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Non-Apocalypse

When saying "No God", there must be a definition of God first. Otherwise, either illogical or meaningless!

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"In the broadest sense, atheism is the absence of belief in the existence of deities." same source

Can you explain logically/ meaningfully, how the absence of belief is belief . I guess not, basically!
 
"In the broadest sense, atheism is the absence of belief in the existence of deities." same source

Can you explain logically/ meaningfully, how the absence of belief is belief . I guess not, basically!

That means they reject All forms of "Deities" that are already hardly defined, individually or collectively! A fairly strong belied indeed, in their rejection system/logic!

Perhaps also a strong belief in Self!
 
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1. typical sophistry from a leftist drone.

2. I am the one supporting real science you are the troll acting as if something is scientific when it is really just a collection of ideas.

a. There is no scientific proof of a multiverse. As penrose said M theory is a collect of ideas. We don't know even one other universe exists.

b. we don't even have a complete plausible pathway showing how life could have evolved from non life.

c. co2 is also a coolant. NASA experiments show it to be a thermostat and the data shows warming and cooling lead co2 levels up an down. So while I too think co2 could amplify natural warming and cooling... there is zero peer reviewed science saying man made co2 is causing warming now.

You can jump up and down and point to false papers about 75 out 77 out of 10,000 being 97 percent or you can give us a link to Powells database... which I then show is a wrong because there are 1350 peer reveewed papers which are skeptical but you will not find any science saying man made co2 causes warming.


You are full of shit on so many levels...and you may not even realize it.

Here is a tip...

see if Stu presents a link to real science proving other universes or life evolving from non life or man made co2 causes warming.

or...
see if he just bullshits and trolls his ass off as usual.




If it is science, then there is no belief or need for faith in
'the multi verse or other universes,
that life evolved from non life,
that man made co2 is warming the earth'.

No faith in them if it is science. The physics, the math, the facts, ie the science, points to their presence.

It takes blind faith, usually blind religious faith, to refuse deny and feign the knowledge brought to everything through science.
 
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