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Atheism is a or is a product of mental illness...
- Thread starter OPTIONAL777
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Saying God is impossible is illogical.
Quote from stu:
This is unreasonable.....
"Saying something is logically possible also includes the existence of God."
Is there any particular reason why you are being so unreasonable about that?
But for truly unreasonable, go read all those Patently unreasonable posts of your own.
marketsurfer was talking of word play.Quote from OPTIONAL777:
Saying God is impossible is illogical.
he could just as well have said....
the word game are phrases like "Saying God is impossible is illogical." when the unreasonable comment .... "Saying something is logically possible also includes the existence of God." was the thing actually being argued------thats the word game the theist plays.
"Saying something is logically possible also includes the existence of God."
No it doesn't. Reason already given.
This is obviously true. It's impossible to argue an "impossible" unless all possibilities can be accounted for. Which is funny, since this is the exact type of logic falw that OPTIONAL777 has been making throughout this thread.
Quote from OPTIONAL777:
Saying God is impossible is illogical.
You have been reduced to word games...
Thanks for continuing to make the point of this thread.
Thanks for continuing to make the point of this thread.
Quote from stu:
marketsurfer was talking of word play.
he could just as well have said....
the word game are phrases like "Saying God is impossible is illogical." when the unreasonable comment .... "Saying something is logically possible also includes the existence of God." was the thing actually being argued------thats the word game the theist plays.
"Saying something is logically possible also includes the existence of God."
No it doesn't. Reason already given.
Quite true, you can't say impossible until you have ruled out all possibilities of God being possible.
Since God is logically possible, then God is not logically impossible.
If you can show how God (as I define God...not the Judeo Christian view of God) is not logically possible, please do so...
Since God is logically possible, then God is not logically impossible.
If you can show how God (as I define God...not the Judeo Christian view of God) is not logically possible, please do so...
Quote from sjfan:
This is obviously true. It's impossible to argue an "impossible" unless all possibilities can be accounted for. Which is funny, since this is the exact type of logic falw that OPTIONAL777 has been making throughout this thread.
... Sure. God is logically possible in this sense as it is logically possible that a bus will appear out of thin air in front you RIGHT NOW. Logically, anything is possible from a simple reference.
But we don't call people who don't really believe there's not going to be a bus that appears randomly insane. They simply discount such as a possibility as improbable and not useful to consider.
Atheists consider the possibility of god improbable and not useful. Wrong, perhaps, but not by any means insane.
But we don't call people who don't really believe there's not going to be a bus that appears randomly insane. They simply discount such as a possibility as improbable and not useful to consider.
Atheists consider the possibility of god improbable and not useful. Wrong, perhaps, but not by any means insane.
Quote from OPTIONAL777:
Since God is logically possible, then God is not logically impossible.
Thanks, you have confirmed that God is logically possible, not logically impossible.
When I talk of mental illness, that doesn't mean insanity.
How many people are perfectly mentally well?
Perfect mental health would be a condition where a person is not carrying resentments.
It has been shown over and over again that the majority of atheists have some grudge against religion and/or their concept of God.
This is not rational in carrying a grudge of some sort. There is no benefit mentally to holding and keeping a resentment. It clouds the mind, prevents present time experience, and is an emotional reaction to something in the past that influences the ability to reason free of such emotional disturbances in the present.
I would speculate that a vast majority of atheists who practice their belief system of atheism were at one time a theist. I also speculate that they don't have a positive imagine in their mind of theism, the concept of God, or religion.
This negative bias influences their ability to reason effectively to some degree, as does any negative emotion generated from past hurt, past failure, past abuses, past disappointments, etc.
The atheist stake a claim to reason and rationalism, but when they are seen to be acting out emotionally and/or driven by some deep wounding, in psychological terms that is not mental health, it is a mental illness.
It may be the most mind mental illness, but it is not truly mental wellness...
A mentally well person would have no emotional charge to the term God, or religion, etc. They would just think, okay, if it works for them, and they don't force me to share their beliefs, we can just live and let live peacefully...
When I talk of mental illness, that doesn't mean insanity.
How many people are perfectly mentally well?
Perfect mental health would be a condition where a person is not carrying resentments.
It has been shown over and over again that the majority of atheists have some grudge against religion and/or their concept of God.
This is not rational in carrying a grudge of some sort. There is no benefit mentally to holding and keeping a resentment. It clouds the mind, prevents present time experience, and is an emotional reaction to something in the past that influences the ability to reason free of such emotional disturbances in the present.
I would speculate that a vast majority of atheists who practice their belief system of atheism were at one time a theist. I also speculate that they don't have a positive imagine in their mind of theism, the concept of God, or religion.
This negative bias influences their ability to reason effectively to some degree, as does any negative emotion generated from past hurt, past failure, past abuses, past disappointments, etc.
The atheist stake a claim to reason and rationalism, but when they are seen to be acting out emotionally and/or driven by some deep wounding, in psychological terms that is not mental health, it is a mental illness.
It may be the most mind mental illness, but it is not truly mental wellness...
A mentally well person would have no emotional charge to the term God, or religion, etc. They would just think, okay, if it works for them, and they don't force me to share their beliefs, we can just live and let live peacefully...
Quote from sjfan:
... Sure. God is logically possible in this sense as it is logically possible that a bus will appear out of thin air in front you RIGHT NOW. Logically, anything is possible from a simple reference.
But we don't call people who don't really believe there's not going to be a bus that appears randomly insane. They simply discount such as a possibility as improbable and not useful to consider.
Atheists consider the possibility of god improbable and not useful. Wrong, perhaps, but not by any means insane.
Quote from OPTIONAL777:
Quite true, you can't say impossible until you have ruled out all possibilities of God being possible.
Since God is logically possible, then God is not logically impossible.
If you can show how God (as I define God...not the Judeo Christian view of God) is not logically possible, please do so...
you wouldn't recognize god if you saw it.