At This Rate, California

Quote from BSAM:

California will not soon break away.
What would they do with no financial assistance from D.C.?

It will take Texas to start the avalanche, if it begins anytime soon.


California gives more to The federal government then it gets back Brother BSAM


 
Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Bull shit jem,the act of secession is an act of war against the Untied States of America..
NO IT'S NOT you ignorant moron.
 
Here are some interesting facts about California from Wikipedia.

State spending increased from $56 billion in 1998 to $127 billion in 2011. California, with 12% of the U.S. population, has one-third of the nation's welfare recipients. California has the third highest per capita spending on welfare among the states, as well as the highest spending on welfare at $6.67 billion. In January 2011 the California's total debt was at least $265 billion.

The principal ancestries of California's residents in 2009 has been surveyed to be:
31% Mexican
10% German
8% Irish
7% English
4% Italian
 
Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Bull shit jem,the act of secession is an act of war against the Untied States of America .Again,you can leave but you aren't taking American land with you


Wow... now you know why so many americans own guns.

it because there are crazies like you who would kill them for exercise their rights to self determination.

wow... you are scary. really.. I am totally serious.
you are big brothers best friend.
you are the people Orwell warned about.
you need to really think what you are saying through.


What if Hitler got elected... would you follow his orders?
How about Saddam, how about Stalin, how about Chavez.
or would you question the righteousness of their orders.

What if the Feds told you to test and eliminate all female new borns who had a certain genetic marker?

Where do you start to use your brain?
 
Quote from jem:

Wow... now you know why so many americans own guns.

it because there are crazies like you who would kill them for exercise their rights to self determination.

wow... you are scary. really.. I am totally serious.
you are big brothers best friend.
you are the people Orwell warned about.
you need to really think what you are saying through.


What if Hitler got elected... would you follow his orders?
How about Saddam, how about Stalin, how about Chavez.
or would you question the righteousness of their orders.

What if the Feds told you to test and eliminate all female new borns who had a certain genetic marker?

Where do you start to use your brain?

Where do you start to use your brain? None of that has anything to do with me fighting for my country and democratically elected government if traitors tried to steal American land.
 
Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Bull shit jem,the act of secession is an act of war against the Untied States of America .Again,you can leave but you aren't taking American land with you
You don't know nothin' kid.

This is a very long review of the question of the right for a state to succeed from the union.

In Lincoln’s mind, he was preserving the Union, but the reality is that he declared war – a bloody, costly war – on a people who peacefully, legally, and perhaps rightfully severed relations with a government that had become hostile to them and their interests, and no longer served them equally or fairly.

http://ncrenegade.com/editorial/secession-does-a-state-have-the-right-to-secede-from-the-union/
 
Quote from jem:

Wow... now you know why so many americans own guns.


Gun ownership is on the decline,just the same people buying more guns


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/10/u...is-down-survey-shows.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0




The NRA has around 4.2 million members in a country of 234 million adults.Maybe your conclusion from that is there are a large number of gun owners but I would disagree


I hear that The Feds and department of homeland security is increasing their arms though .
 
actually those questions... matter a lot.
you need to be a human being not a govt drone.
when must you say that leader is just a man and he can not order me to do something which violates some set of principles.

at is core is when do you believe in freedom and liberty for others?
when do you believe in justice?

if a president told you to launch an attack on La Jolla CA because CA seceeded from the union and that is where the money is... would you press the button to launch some missles.



Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Where do you start to use your brain? None of that has anything to do with me fighting for my country and democratically elected government if traitors tried to steal American land.
 
Quote from jem:


you need to be a human being not a govt drone.

A democratically elected government is a representative of the people jem.I stand with the people not the minority who don't like it when they don't get their way and threaten revolution / secession
 
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