https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/covid-19-antibody-testing-tougher-than-true-falseI feel like the idea of repeatable science and sharing links data so others in the community can run an analysis and confirm your findings....is 100 percent lost on you right now.
1. I also suspect asymptomatic transmission is rare.
2. What you have not established with data is...
"30 to 40 percent (or higher in some cases) of those being reported as infected and asymptomatic are not. They are not infected, and have never been, not yet anyway, so of course they don't have symptoms"
Question?
Why can't you link us to some data supporting your claim?
I feel like the idea of repeatable science and sharing the data is lost on you right now...
but you of all people (being you claim to be a scientist) would want to share links and data?
I just don't get it... it seems many people here lose there damn minds when discussing Covid.
In the United States, eight organizations had received emergency use authorization from the Food and Drug Administration for antibody tests, as of April 30. But the FDA announced in March that test makers could sell Covid-19 diagnostics as soon as they’re satisfied with their own test and have notified the FDA, before the agency has reviewed their data. Dozens of tests have come out under these guidelines.
Often, these antibodies are detected via a test called an ELISA (enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay), which is typically run in a lab, taking a few hours. An alternative test, using the same principles, takes place on a paper strip, much like a pregnancy test. This test, called a lateral flow assay, can be used in a doctor’s office, with results in minutes. But the World Health Organization has warned that the faster tests are less accurate.
Part of the challenge with specificity in this context is that SARS-CoV-2 is not the only member of the coronavirus family to infect human beings. Two other coronaviruses, SARS and MERS, caused earlier multi-country outbreaks. Moreover, there are at least four coronaviruses that cause a fraction of cases of the common cold.
Many people have been exposed to these common-cold coronaviruses, and could be carrying antibodies against them. So any Covid-19 test must be able to distinguish between the novel coronavirus and the more common, less dangerous ones. A lot of the tests being used right now fail to do so, says Sylvia Daunert, a bioanalytical chemist and director of the JT Macdonald Foundation Biomedical Nanotechnology Institute at the University of Miami in Florida. Daunert coauthored a paper on the use of antibody-like molecules in biotechnology for the Annual Review of Analytical Chemistry in 2017.
jem, A test that is has 95% specificity and 95 % Sensitivity is used to test a community of 500 with a 5% actual Prevalence of Covid-2 will produce 50% false positive. i.e., a person who tests positive has only a 50 percent chance of actually being positive.
But the early tests used extensively were not this specific.
with a lower prevalence, tests are more likely to give false positives.
Search recent Scientific American issues for the following:try https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-covid-19-antibody-tests-can-and-cannot-tell-us/
The preprint study on an antibody test in Santa Clara County claimed that it had a specificity of 99.5 percent. But University of Washington epidemiologist Trevor Bedford argued in a Twitter thread that if that test instead had a 98.5 percent specificity—well within the possible range of uncertainty defined by the researchers—all of the study’s “positive results” could have been false positives.
there is massive literature on this. use Google. If your going to get your information from our Jackass President or Fox, be prepared to be wrong 100% of the time.
Also, see an earlier post of mine, perhaps it was in chit chat, which give a reference to a peer reviewed article on an antibody test(a very carefully done one) on SARS-Covid exposed hospital workers. SARS-Covid-2 is so similar to SARS-Covid-1 that it is highly unlikely the asymptomatic statistics are significantly different between the two viruses. And if all else fails, there is always common sense to fall back on. Why would 50% of passengers on a ten day cruise develop SARS-Covid-2 antibodies at sufficient titer to be detected!!! Probably the meat plant data is similarly flawed in that it is likely reporting many false positives for antibodies. I doubt Smithfield is going to spring for the cost of doing lab ELIZA on their undocumented workers.
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