Asymptomatic spread of Covid very rare... per WHO

[jem]

yeah it was new, but the experts were aware that SARs had followed a cluster and Super Spreader model. Plenty of papers on that. Our experts are not morons.
They knew...
The papers are on the net.

Google scientists figure it out. They are not in that field.

We surmised early on the data did not fit the models. .


The universal lockdown of low risk healthy people had never been done before in history. Nothing about this virus called for that.

The pattern this virus followed called for the temporary lock down of clusters and the isolation of those who were high risk.

never should we have had a universal lockdown of low risk healthy people.
There was no science or data to support that..

This was 100 percent bullshit after we saw the hospitals were empty... ( outside of the clusters like NYC).

It's a new virus, we didn't know shit about it and I am not sure we know much more today. It might wind up acting more like the flu than we think and fall will be a shit show, who knows. Maybe it will turn out to be way less harmful than we thought, but we had to assume the worst case scenario considering the number of lives at stake. Let's not forget a lot of people have died, what would the country do if there were over 30 9/11 scale attacks on our country.

 

[Overnight]

... Let's not forget a lot of people have died, what would the country do if there were over 30 9/11 scale attacks on our country...

That is an outrageous comparison. Talk about apples and oranges!

 

[Cuddles]

you have been wrong for months and you have been a douche about it.

 

[El OchoCinco]

That statement is like a hindsight trade.

Dude, all we have heard is how virulent this COVID has been.

What strange logic would suggest that asymptomatic people could transmit a virus before symptoms show in the carrier? Ever heard of this little thing called HIV, which causes AIDS? It started back in the early 1980s.

Logically, it makes sense that if you have HERPES SIMPLEX I, but do not have a cold sore on your mouth, you can transmit that virus to someone else, even thought you do not have a cold sore on your mouth.

Logically.

Agreed. The Flu can actually be transmitted asympomatically in some cases. When nannies or child care workers start working they are asked to get the flu shot to reduce the liklihood of passing it to the child whose immune systems is not as strong. Even if you do not have the flu symptoms you could still carry it and pass it on. is it common? NO not as contagious as people with symptoms but still possible.

Men can carry HPV with no symptoms and pass it on to women which is why they are advocating men get the HPV vaccine.

If COVID is contagious in asymptomatic people then the spread could be really bad. If WHo says the data supprots the fact that only sympotmatic peope pass it on I can give them the benefit of the doubt and say this was new and they went with the earliest bullshit China or someone else fed them...but they have gotten so much shit wrong and have been politicized that I wonder if they simply acted like a medical organization they could have determined this earleir and saved us a lot of misery.

 

[Overnight]

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Men can carry HPV with no symptoms and pass it on to women which is why they are advocating men get the HPV vaccine...

I was going to mention genital warts, but decided not to because it seemed crude. You beat me to it.

 

[El OchoCinco]

I was going to mention genital warts, but decided not to because it seemed crude. You beat me to it.

Maybe you had more personal recall to speak of in that..


lol..sorry ...too easy

 

[Overnight]

Maybe you had more personal recall to speak of in that..


lol..sorry ...too easy

NO, haven't you seen the commercials on TV lately? Oh, wait, you watch dust bunnies in the breeze rustle. That is yer entertainment. Cats. *sighs*!

 

[Nine_Ender]

To the dumb as rocks leftist and GWB...
Who could not understand that the models sucked and could never be fit to the data....

many of you were all such douchebags to the smart people here who can think in systems.

Buddy, you seem mentally ill and make tons of proclamations that neither you nor the various scientists know with any certainty at all. The scientists understand this though whereas you don't. Which makes you a hazard to those around you.

 

[Bugenhagen]

Jem is completely lost, he has too many information fragments he half understands.

I created a thread regarding superspreaders on May 22 before Jem. https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...t-spread-the-virus-at-all.345163/#post-510748
This was just to note the significance of tbe idea.


help explain the choir outbreaks. People’s behavior also plays a role. Having many social contacts or not washing your hands makes you more likely to pass on the virus.

The factor scientists are closest to understanding is where COVID-19 clusters are likely to occur. “Clearly there is a much higher risk in enclosed spaces than outside,” Althaus says. Researchers in China studying the spread of the coronavirus outside Hubei province—ground zero for the pandemic—identified 318 clusters of three or more cases between 4 January and 11 February, only one of which originated outdoors. A study in Japan found that the risk of infection indoors is almost 19 times higher than outdoors. (Japan, which was hit early but has kept the epidemic under control, has built its COVID-19 strategy explicitly around avoiding clusters, advising citizens to avoid closed spaces and crowded conditions.)

Some situations may be particularly risky. Meatpacking plants are likely vulnerable because many people work closely together in spaces where low temperature helps the virus survive. But it may also be relevant that they tend to be loud places, Knight says. The report about the choir in Washington made her realize that one thing links numerous clusters: They happened in places where people shout or sing. And although Zumba classes have been connected to outbreaks, Pilates classes, which are not as intense, have not, Knight notes. “Maybe slow, gentle breathing is not a risk factor, but heavy, deep, or rapid breathing and shouting is.”

 

[jem]

Buddy, you have been wrong for months and insulting those of us who have understood the data did not fit the bullhshit the "experts" were feeding you mushrooms.
you ate up all the bullshit you were being fed.

to drones like you, people who have critical thinking skills are dangerous.

we were the ones saying the expert don't have the data to make these policy decision like locking up the low risk groups (after we saw the hospitials outside if the clusters were empty)

You were morons acting like the experts were right and insulting those of us who were using our brains.

you have completely flipped the issue perhaps in part because you never understood the issue.

Buddy, you seem mentally ill and make tons of proclamations that neither you nor the various scientists know with any certainty at all. The scientists understand this though whereas you don't. Which makes you a hazard to those around you.