As Walgreen Plays Doctor, Family Physicians Bristle

After years of watching how doctors and hospitals have dealt with my father, i've come pretty close to agreeing with eight that they are absolutely nothing but a subcontractor that works for you, and not the absolute authority that the medical community attempts to make themselves out to be.

And if you go into a hospital, you are absolutely screwed. Because you lose complete control. You are then under their complete authority and there is nothing you can do about it. You can't even get out without playing hell. I will be less agreeable to ever getting myself checked into a hospital than the average person because of this.

And when the gov't gets their hands on it, it's going to be infinitely worse.
 
"An average of 195,000 people in the USA died due to potentially preventable, in-hospital medical errors in each of the years 2000, 2001 and 2002, according to a new study of 37 million patient records..."




Hospitals and their incompetent staff kill far more people than guns do.
Where's the outrage over that?
 
just like with attorneys or investment advisors or Realtors or teachers.

you need to find ones who think in systems and have taken the time to combine experience with knowledge.
 
Quote from Eight:

The medical profession is somewhat of an illness. A doctor is just a Technician that speaks Latin. They have this tiny little playbook provided by Big Pharma. There is much more in this world than that shitty little playbook they have. They have to defend their inferior product by getting legal protection so they use the system to fight off competition. They have become extremely adept at using the system to keep themselves on top of the heap and they play dirty.

Personally, I have a lot of knowledge about natural stuff.. if I got diagnosed with something serious I'd do some medical tourism starting with the shamans in the Amazon. They will treat you to some ayahuasca and if nothing else, you could die really happy..

When I go to a doctor he's just a subcontractor. If he won't share the data from tests but just wants to give me his version of the data, I find another subcontractor.

Who knows which is a better technician really, some doctors with 7 minutes to spend with a patient or some skilled nurses at a drug store? I'd try them both before deciding.

We need to fight for our medical freedoms all the time. It should have been written into the Constitution, the same things were going on in those days.

Good post.
 
Just imagine if Great masses of Americans started eating healthily and refused to be obese. It would devastate the medical and drug industries, never mind junk food/processed food industries.

What is fascinating to me is the way these different industries develop beneficial, uncoordinated economic interests that then in turn become extremely powerful.

The notion that in most cases health is an individual responsibility, and that health means eating natural, fresh foods plus reasonable exercise, is considered to be a radical concept - perhaps even a mental disorder (as seen in a recent article I read).

As a critic from the right, I must say that the notion that every activity should be to maximize profit or to create a rent has clearly reached a destructive end.

In the past I would have said, "but if we had a free market..." but, I have come to realize the "free market" is a theoretical concept, not reality. In the real world powerful interests prefer cronyism to a free market - always have, always will. We must move forward from the real hands we are dealt, not make-believe.
 
Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Thats the part of eights post I disagree with,I wouldn't trust my health to the natural healers.

So maybe you close your opinion about things you know little about? Just sayin'...

I cured bursitis of the shoulder with Hyaluronic Acid. My asshole doctor didn't want to hear about it, he wanted to sell me shots for pain. His shitty little playbook doesn't actually have a cure for bursitis in it and he's not allowed to go outside the box, the AMA would sanction him.

I'd go with the natural healers AND the doctors but I never have any serious health problems. I find out what's missing from the food in the US of A and I supplement it. I have to sort through a lot of bullshit to get to the good answers but it's worth it.

A book called The Healing Codes is incredibly useful because there is a spiritual component to every disease and accident. Best to head it all off before it manifests...

There is an awful lot more than what these ridiculous doctors have to offer.
 
It's not unusual for monopolies to try and retain their positions. Other nations allow citizens to walk into a pharmacy without a script and purchase the medicine of their choice to keep prices down, we don't do "the customer is always right" here any longer. Some Dr. associations have even pushed legislation outlawing midwifes in their respective states, anything to hang onto economic power.
 
Quote from Eight:

The medical profession is somewhat of an illness. A doctor is just a Technician that speaks Latin. They have this tiny little playbook provided by Big Pharma. There is much more in this world than that shitty little playbook they have. They have to defend their inferior product by getting legal protection so they use the system to fight off competition. They have become extremely adept at using the system to keep themselves on top of the heap and they play dirty.

Personally, I have a lot of knowledge about natural stuff.. if I got diagnosed with something serious I'd do some medical tourism starting with the shamans in the Amazon. They will treat you to some ayahuasca and if nothing else, you could die really happy..

When I go to a doctor he's just a subcontractor. If he won't share the data from tests but just wants to give me his version of the data, I find another subcontractor.

Who knows which is a better technician really, some doctors with 7 minutes to spend with a patient or some skilled nurses at a drug store? I'd try them both before deciding.

We need to fight for our medical freedoms all the time. It should have been written into the Constitution, the same things were going on in those days.
"Personally, I have a lot of knowledge about natural stuff.. if I got diagnosed with something serious I'd do some medical tourism starting with the shamans in the Amazon. They will treat you to some ayahuasca and if nothing else, you could die really happy.. "
Lol, love it.
 
Quote from MrN:

Just imagine if Great masses of Americans started eating healthily and refused to be obese. It would devastate the medical and drug industries, never mind junk food/processed food industries.

What is fascinating to me is the way these different industries develop beneficial, uncoordinated economic interests that then in turn become extremely powerful.

The notion that in most cases health is an individual responsibility, and that health means eating natural, fresh foods plus reasonable exercise, is considered to be a radical concept - perhaps even a mental disorder (as seen in a recent article I read).

As a critic from the right, I must say that the notion that every activity should be to maximize profit or to create a rent has clearly reached a destructive end.

In the past I would have said, "but if we had a free market..." but, I have come to realize the "free market" is a theoretical concept, not reality. In the real world powerful interests prefer cronyism to a free market - always have, always will. We must move forward from the real hands we are dealt, not make-believe.
Well said. I've long believed there is no "laissez fairy" that will make everything right if we just leave it alone. WE have to make it right. (Of course there is also madness on the other end of the management spectrum.)
 
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