Article is spot on....work from home needs to be banned..

Work from home is very very much here to stay. Employers have ZERO leverage over this. What are they gonna do, hire illegal mexicans to do their engineering, analysis, coding, management, research..lol
 
They did this to themselves. The 2020 riots were the start of the end.

Cities are run by poverty pimps that aren't interested in making them decent places to live for normal working people. Lots of people are heavily tied to their RE and have difficulty moving but I expect it to just get worse.

I used to like going to visit NYC. There was so much to do and see. Now forget it.

These politicians would rather be mayors of crime infested hellholes than let them become decent places and face a possibile loss in the next election. Plus you have issues of deeply entrenched widespread corruption.
What's the alternative? I think you either have cities or country; suburbs are the worst of both. Convenience of city life is pretty good.
 
Boston is not the same either; crime is a big issue while real estate is crazy high. We just bought a 3800 sq ft home 40 minutes outside of Boston . Great area.
 
Work from definitely destroyed the downtown CRE market. In SF if you go to the financial district it is a ghost town with homeless scattered about. Buildings are selling for 10-15% of 2019 valuations.

The local subway here, BART, is up to 44% of 2019 ridership, it was 33% in 2023. I went once to meet my friend for lunch in downtown SF and the train car I was in had 3 people in it. BART is essentially bankrupt and now needs a bailout from Newsom & his cronies.

So you may hate RTO but it isn't free. City finances are collapsing and tax collection is DOA. Restaurants are closing and even chains like Whole Foods & CVS are abandoning SF. In SF because of so much inflation you can't really eat anywhere for less than $50 unless you want to eat a sandwich or salad. I had a salad in downtown SF it was $40. The same salad was $16 in 2019.

In short downtowns are fucked.

Downtowns were fucked way before this work-from-home from Covid. In fact, downtowns have always been fucked ever since they started the concept of suburban living and building highways to connect the suburbs to downtowns. Has nothing to do with Covid. If you look at any city in United States, downtowns are essentially unlivable and there was never any life let alone vibrancy in downtown. Gentrification only went so far to change that but mostly downtowns are just offices surrounded by crime areas. Right now with the work-from-home arrangement, even the offices are getting abandoned so that just exacerbated the problem with downtown that it is now cutting into the bottom line of the city coffers. So at the end, just like everything else, this is not a moral issue; this is an economic issue. Those big corporations with office buildings are losing rent money and can't even sell the buildings with profit and they need bodies to be put back there for them to at least earn rent.
 
Downtowns were fucked way before this work-from-home from Covid. In fact, downtowns have always been fucked ever since they started the concept of suburban living and building highways to connect the suburbs to downtowns. Has nothing to do with Covid.

We're talking about the difference between a ball slowly rolling down a hill vs. a dude jumping off a cliff in a squirrel suit.
 
Depends on the job and company. For a startup I think onsite is critical. For a large firm remote workers do nothing but they probably did nothing when onsite. I quit a job because it was hybrid and I could walk there, still not worth it

Many successful start ups are heavily remote. It's mostly backwards or jealous people saying remote work has to be rolled back. S2007S is often a moron so I'm not surprised he wants it banned a ridiculous impractical concept. I could get into the career path a family member took but it suffices to say almost a decade of 100% remote work has paid off enormously.
 
Speaking for Oakland, CA where I grew up, downtown had always been poor, deserted and dangerous for those overlooking from the hills. When former governor Jerry Brown became mayor in the late 90s he set about to increase population density to attract small businesses. It took well over 10 years to realize his plan but it worked. Many parts of downtown became gentrified (I always use this term positively) and vibrant with lots of shops and restaurants while cops ensured East and West Oakland poverty didn't disturb the efforts. When I left in 2019 Oakland had become the cool city to live in.
Covid and stay at home snapped that drive right out of existence. Gangs reclaimed their loot zones, thugs roamed the streets for any opportunity crimes and many young tech workers moved out as soon as they began to feel unsafe.
Today, Oakland is back to its pre 2k era.
 
Hospital group where the wife works let the HR department stay work from home withe the show up up every so often edict. All that has meant for the leaders below the execs is they now have to do more interview screening, all the onboarding, and go through paperwork for new hires that used to be HR's job when they were on site. In other words the management below the C level are stuck doing HR work and adding hours to their day to get their work done and HR work done, while the HR people put in 8 hour days on the whole, assuming they aren't just using the mouse shaker for a part of their day.
So, work from home maybe acceptable at some levels, but is a real pile of b.s. at other levels.
 
Speaking for Oakland, CA where I grew up, downtown had always been poor, deserted and dangerous for those overlooking from the hills. When former governor Jerry Brown became mayor in the late 90s he set about to increase population density to attract small businesses. It took well over 10 years to realize his plan but it worked. Many parts of downtown became gentrified (I always use this term positively) and vibrant with lots of shops and restaurants while cops ensured East and West Oakland poverty didn't disturb the efforts. When I left in 2019 Oakland had become the cool city to live in.
Covid and stay at home snapped that drive right out of existence. Gangs reclaimed their loot zones, thugs roamed the streets for any opportunity crimes and many young tech workers moved out as soon as they began to feel unsafe.
Today, Oakland is back to its pre 2k era.
That's pretty accurate but I would say Oakland already improved a lot by the early 2000s. I worked at a startup in downtown Oakland (The Franklin Building, Franklin & 17th) from 1998-2008. It was pretty good around that neighborhood. It was pretty safe, even East Oakland was okay.

I think the defund the police movement really destroyed whatever gains Oakland made. They can't even hire cops anymore, the same as SF. Parking near Lake Merritt just leads to bipping aka stolen car or smashed windows and stolen property (BiP == Burglary in Progress).

They also have a leadership problem. The voters keep voting in leftists as Mayor and they do nothing to fix the problem. The current mayor is under suspicion for taking bribes. Thao has been AWOL for like a month or 2 since the Feds raided her apartment. There's basically no mayor of Oakland currently.
 
Downtowns were fucked way before this work-from-home from Covid. In fact, downtowns have always been fucked ever since they started the concept of suburban living and building highways to connect the suburbs to downtowns. Has nothing to do with Covid. If you look at any city in United States, downtowns are essentially unlivable and there was never any life let alone vibrancy in downtown. Gentrification only went so far to change that but mostly downtowns are just offices surrounded by crime areas. Right now with the work-from-home arrangement, even the offices are getting abandoned so that just exacerbated the problem with downtown that it is now cutting into the bottom line of the city coffers. So at the end, just like everything else, this is not a moral issue; this is an economic issue. Those big corporations with office buildings are losing rent money and can't even sell the buildings with profit and they need bodies to be put back there for them to at least earn rent.

In Miami the downtown today is a huge magnitude of a difference then lets say 15 year ago. 15 years ago it was office buildings during the day and bums/homeless at night, mostly a ghost town. Now its pricey condos/apts, restaurants, bars and even more homeless.
 
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