Arthur Jones on how much exercise is "enough"
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I think Baron is being modest. His earlier photos posted in a now-closed thread show him to be quite lean. I'm assuming he's presently maintaining a similar level of leanness. If so, is it worth the extra effort, both in the gym and at the dinner table, to take it to the nth degree? I don't think so. Even "pro" bodybuilders don't maintain extreme leanness year round; it's just too taxing.
Arghhh....I shorted 2 dow futures at 20655, with a 5 point stop...i was fantasizing about a drop to 20600 i.e. a 11x then i realised i had to go to the gym...came back and found that the market had gone there.... unfortunately i forgot to put a limit order in at 20600...grrr
edit: out at 615...a 10R..was lucky!
edit...8x not 10
edit: out at 615...a 10R..was lucky!
edit...8x not 10
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He said he wanted to lose another 5 pounds...i was just saying it could be done.
Really? Ok...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24270456
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18545210
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19387377
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00421-002-0751-9
I can give you more studies if you like!
It's known as the interference or concurrent effect and happens when trying to make a muscle adapt in 2 different directions.
Your reference to Bass's book might be studies done on untrained individuals, those who are beginners. With those guys, they'll put on muscle whatever they do whether they do cardio or pick up a weight!
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That's okay. I'll go with the last sentence from your first link:
Therefore, the frequency of endurance training should remain low if the primary focus of the training intervention is strength and hypertrophy.
Not exactly. From my earlier link:
The results were the same with the active young Swedish volunteers and the sedentary middle-age Canadian volunteers. No matter what your age or experience, combining weights and aerobics appears to have no physiological downside.
Of course, this naturally means within a relevant range of activity rather than extremes.
Rather than subject ourselves to study vs. study, let's agree that there may be disagreement in research findings. And since neither of us is an expert, we'll each go with those in whom we have more confidence. Fair enough? After all, this forum is an exchange of ideas, experiences and information. Variety of opinion makes for lively debate.
The reason I like referring to Clarence Bass is that he has been a fitness enthusiast for over 6 decades. He's all about trial and error, and keeping up with the research. He maintains regular contact with a number of researchers in the field and regularly reports their findings, along with his own take based on his personal experience. So he's a great go-to reference for me since he has done the homework.
I had stopped doing cardio for a time a few years ago, but felt guilty and went back. But I did switch from steady-state cardio to the more brief and intense interval cardio, as I noted earlier. Are you saying that you suggest no cardio at all? I know that Doug McGuff, who wrote Body By Science, believes that high intensity resistance training provides sufficient cardio. Even so, I don't mind paying a bit extra in cardio insurance, just to make sure I'm getting a balanced workout.
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Baron
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1. Each workout is 30 minutes.
2. I have a home gym and do weight training 3 -5 times per week.
Fair point but i should say i'm personally being trained and taught by an expert.
You mean you are doing HIIT? This is the worse form of cardio to do with weight training. If you insist on doing cardio, then do LISS (low intensity steady state). Going for a walk is a good one. And do it as far away as possible from when you do your weight training.