Argument that decimates the pro gun position

Quote from Hoofhearted:

...There is now a need for gun control- not gun abolition...

We already HAVE gun control.


To the tune of 22,000 federal state and local firearms laws.

The Columbine shooters broke/IGNORED no less than 20 firearms laws accumulating their weapons. Would 21 laws have or is 22,001 laws really going to make an appreciable difference you think?

The problem isn't the inanimate lead projectile dispensing tools. The problem is the idiots and crazies pointing them at innocents and pulling the trigger.

Ban and confiscate EVERY firearm on the planet tomorrow. The crazies and idiots will still be committing mass murders, by other means.

Lock up and or execute all the idiots and crazies, PROBLEM SOLVED forever.
 
Quote from Hoofhearted:

What you say is true and most would agree that Mav88 could benefit to practice control over his temper and his demeanor, especially when talking to women.

Please show me the genitalia of a post.

I mean seriously dude where does the double standard end?
 
Why do you liberals hate children so much? If you really cared, you'd propose solutions that address the actual problem, not phony ones that forward your agenda.

Even before the children in CT were laid to rest, you ghouls jumped on it as an opportunity. As Lucrum pointed out, there are already plenty of laws on the books. What makes you "think" criminals and murderers give a shit about laws?

The problem isn't inanimate objects, it's our rotting culture that you liberals are doing your best to accelerate the decay of.
Quote from Hoofhearted:

There is now a need for gun control
 
So maybe in the schools they can have the doors to the class with lock on the outside. When the door is closed no one in the outside hall can open that. But from the class all the children and teacher can open with no problem. For me I never shoot the gun before. And I think if I am the teacher what will happen if I am so afraid when the real person with gun is looking at me? Will I shoot that gun? And where is the gun to get so fast if I am the teacher in the class? They can not have that gun with bullets on the desk to be ready.
 
Quote from Hoofhearted:

What you say is true and most would agree that Mav88 could benefit to practice control over his temper and his demeanor, especially when talking to women.

In regards to your question as to Why America is very advanced and wealthy, even though we have always had minorities, the answer is not so simple.

Guns are one of the reasons why we have been a powerful nation from the gate- just ask the Native Americans who were widely slaughtered, then rounded up and sent to reservations. Many were willing to fight, but they lacked organizational skills, and their arrows and war clubs could not compete with the white man's firearms.

Another reason for America's power and wealth, is the white man's use of slaves helped to jump start our economy early on. I mean, just think about it; it's hard for business to fail when you have an adequate supply of free labor, working long hours, with little or no benefits. Even now, there are many powerful companies, that rely on making large profits off of cheap labor from minorities, particularly of the Hispanic origin.

But perhaps the most important reason for America's ability to rise, is due to our ability to unite as a whole, and to aspire to be great. There were enough people who saw the inhumanity of slave trading, and they fought bloody and hard to put an end to our shameful ways.

When we realized we were in danger of losing many of our large tracts of untamed wilderness, we defined areas that were to remain unadulterated, and we implemented laws to protect our forests and animals.

So in large, it has been our ability to adapt to changes, and new situations as they arise. There is now a need for gun control- not gun abolition, and we will unite and come up with a solution that allows us to remain relatively safe, while still giving us the strength to defend ourselves.

Many will resist these forgone changes, but their resistance will be futile in the larger scheme of things.

We will do the right thing, eventually- even if it's too late.
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Ok. :)
 
Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

Please show me the genitalia of a post.

I mean seriously dude where does the double standard end?

ct has claimed to be woman. You have claimed to be an agnostic liberal basher. Who am I to question either one of your claims?

As far as double standards are concerned, I hope you might just open your mind to the fact that some men are taught early on to watch their language around women and elders.

I have to remind myself to be respectful when talking to you, oldtimer, and others because you are my elders, even if much of what you say is blatantly close minded and ignorant.

I was taught that age itself has merit.

Grey hair is a crown of splendor ~Proverbs 16:31
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Then what makes you think you're qualified to be making suggestions?
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Why do you think someone have to shoot the gun to understand teachers can not have the gun ready with the bullets in it? Do you have your gun with bullets ready in your house on the table?
 
So because of your inexperience and fears are you saying that no teacher anywhere should ever have a gun? If that's not your point, what in the world are you trying to say?
Quote from trendlover:

For me I never shoot the gun before. And I think if I am the teacher what will happen if I am so afraid when the real person with gun is looking at me? Will I shoot that gun? And where is the gun to get so fast if I am the teacher in the class? They can not have that gun with bullets on the desk to be ready.
 
Quote from Trader666:

So because of your inexperience and fears are you saying that no teacher anywhere should ever have a gun? If that's not your point, what in the world are you trying to say?
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I am saying the teachers have children in the room. How can they have the gun ready, and hide the from children too?

Why can they not have door that lock on the outside from the hall, but always can open from the inside? That man that kill all the children go in the classroom to kill. If the door is lock, he will never go there in.
 
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