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Are Traders Ethical
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Originally posted by Paterfamilias
Well stated. I guess it's a draw then.
You can call it whatever you like, but I find it hard to call it a "draw" when you have never even taken your crayons out of the box.
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Turn of phrase does not an argument make. You understand that, don't you?
Originally posted by Paterfamilias
Turn of phrase does not an argument make. You understand that, don't you?
Do you?
Does anyone see an argument or counter argument in any of these statements made by you in this thread?
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You can willfully ignore the argument all you like but it doesn't make you right.
Originally posted by Paterfamilias
You write nice paragraphs with plenty of big words but you fail to analyze anything, misguided or not. The semantic content of all your posts has been about nil. Again, that's fine but don't foist your own shortcomings upon me.
Paternally yours
I didn't use any big words. I analyzed your false criticisms. What shortcoming??
Originally posted by Paterfamilias
You can willfully ignore the argument all you like but it doesn't make you right.
What argument? Thus far you haven't made one that I can see?
You have made statements of opinion, and assumptions of the meaning of what people are saying, but I don't see any constructed argument at all from your side to support your statements or assumptions.
And if you are true to form, your response to this post will be something like:
If you think there is an argument here, I am missing it entirely, as I suspect any other reasonable person is:
I don't' know what you mean by "evidence" in the above statement, but most people of reason will accept any argument as valid (not necessarily correct, but valid) if it conforms to the principles of argumentation. A constructed argument exists when someone puts forth a proposition and then follows up that statement with an offer of proof, that proof doesn't need to be actual, but reasonable in the abstract where tactile, visible, auditory, olfactory or palatable proof is unavailable. I have offered up reasons to support my position, but you have offered up none.
You offer up no proof of anything but the games of equivocation and opinion stating you seem to be fond of playing.
You may indeed view yourself as the head of a household, a paterfamilias, but that house that you rule over appears to me to be a garden variety nut house.
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Originally posted by ChrisM
So, who is ethical in modern capitalism ? Big corporate leaders spending nights and days thinking how to cook the books and not being caught ? They are people of success, teaching others what to do and how to be useful for the society, but only independent mind can see, that most of them are little people with very mediocre personality. Better slaves of the system, treating lower slaves like a trash.
Who else then ? Politicians ? Yeah, forget it
Lawyers ? Even better joke, isn`t it ? Doctors ? Maybe old fashioned style, if some still survived, the others are just medical business reps
We can go with this much further, but can You see where the difference is ?
Traders have no unions, association, they don`t corrupt anybody, they do not use kids in third world countries to work for them, they don`t kill anybody, they don`t sell drugs, and finally ... they don`t make money on someonethe, who got the cancer. That`s why they are easy targets.
If we want to find hard working class people, which are ethical, hopefully not from advertisement, marketing or sales ???? Because anybody trying to be ethical in these fields wouldn`t keep his job for long.
As professional trader I feel frankly more ethical, then when I worked for the big companies which forced me to be an animal to others.
Very well said. Yes, trading is ethical. Financial markets are free. Some want to invest, some want to minimize risk, and traders want to take the risk. We make markets more liquid, spreads are thiner, so investors can invest more at lower transaction costs. Funds can hedge more.
We may also ask: Are Insurers Ethical? They make ( or lose ) money by taking risk... and their clients are minimizing risk.
Originally posted by doublea
And who said a job has to benefit society? (Not that I agree that trading does not, it certainly does.) Try reading some Rand, ladies.
Atlas Shrugged. This book sure made me want to be a trader. [/B][/QUOTE]
http://www.turtletrader.com/atlas_shrugged.html