Are dual processor machines necessary ?

Quote from nitro:

Not 100,000 charts open, but there are at LEAST 50 that are tracking 100,000 SYMBOLS.

nitro
Nitro,

Let's say that your software scans 100,000 symbols and finds, say, 500 at any given time that meet your criteria.

How do you manage this result set and narrow it down to the few symbols you'll actually trade?

Thanks.
 
Quote from canyonman00:



Now I am sure that there are competent traders out there/here. Many of whom have the ability to manage and create mesmerizing algorithms for tracking highs, lows, and numerous channels of opportunity. But we should not kid anyone, this is not that easy.

There are several schools of thought out there. The two main ones though are from the sometimes opposing camps.


... Most traders should not require anything difficult to make a good living. Use what works: Most of the traders I know that do very well dont need supercomputer type resources and many of them outperform their peers who are using IMHO unnecessarily complicated analyses.

Multiprocessing only gives benefits if the application you are using was written to take advantage of the capabilities of the hardware and this depends upon the nature of the problem being solved by the software. Database systems are typical off the shelf apps which can use the extra power - MS SQL Server, Oracle etc.
 
Quote from richtrader:


Nitro,

Let's say that your software scans 100,000 symbols and finds, say, 500 at any given time that meet your criteria.

How do you manage this result set and narrow it down to the few symbols you'll actually trade?

Thanks.
rich,

I recommend you talk to metooxx.

nitro
 
Multiprocessing only gives benefits if the application you are using was written to take advantage of the capabilities of the hardware and this depends upon the nature of the problem being solved by the software.
There isn't much trading software that is written in for dual processors computers.

Highly complicated analysis leads to complicated trading theories, which leads to bad trading. Keep it simple.

Sure do all of the complicated analysis you want ... in the end the only thing that makes a difference is if you're net positive.:cool:
 
Quote from spreadem:


There isn't much trading software that is written in for dual processors computers.

Highly complicated analysis leads to complicated trading theories, which leads to bad trading. Keep it simple.

Sure do all of the complicated analysis you want ... in the end the only thing that makes a difference is if you're net positive.:cool:
It has nothing to do with analysis. Once you start tracking tens of thousands of symbols in RT, and execution speed becomes critical, even a simple MA calculation takes "forever."

nitro
 
Quote from nitro:


Do that over 100,000 symbols (without the charts - if you had 100,00 charts open, you would need a cluster and 100 GB of RAM to keep up) and now a dual 3.0GHz computer would run at 95% load.

nitro

Don't you think that's overkill? When I was doing individual stocks, I searched through the entire NYSE and Naz lists to find ones with big enough share price and daily volume for suitable trading. I only found a little over 300.

(I didn't know you could even GET RT data on the pink sheet issues.)
 
Quote from dotslashfuture:

if you want max performance on a singe threaded cpu intensive app., XEON is the way to go rather than dual cpu.

Please explain why a XEON would be better than a P4. (Maybe all of us traders would do ourselves well to be running XEONs??)
 
Quote from spreadem:

There isn't much trading software that is written in for dual processors computers.
Actually that's not true. As noted in a previous post, most trading software will take advantage of dual processors because either the datafeed servicing code already runs in its own thread (as with the qcharts datafeed) or in a separate process (as with esignal and DTN).

The issue (at least for trading software) isn't whether the software CAN use dual processors (because it can and will) but whether your workload is high enough that you need a dual because you can't get enough processing horsepower from a single processor (e.g., you need the equivalent of a 4 or 5 GHz P4 but you can't get one).
 
Quote from gnome:



Don't you think that's overkill? When I was doing individual stocks, I searched through the entire NYSE and Naz lists to find ones with big enough share price and daily volume for suitable trading. I only found a little over 300.

(I didn't know you could even GET RT data on the pink sheet issues.)
No - you never know where it will show up. Also, I think you are assuming that the symbols are equities.

nitro
 
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