Are Americans really this bigoted ?

Quote from hoodooman:

....WHY DON'T START A POLL. LOL:D
Nice grammar. What was it you were saying about liberals being more intelligent?

Quote from Nine_Ender:

America seems to constantly be a polarized, divided country that often bases its opinions not on common sense but other criteria like political affiliation and state location.

I'm not saying America is a nation of bigots, what I'm saying is perhaps the environment is somewhat poisoned and such behaviour is too easily accepted. I have no idea what percentage of Americans are truly ignorant or racist, I just find it strange that on a trading forum there would be such an exaggerated profile.

Then again, the amount of conspiracy theories and predictions of massive worldwide destruction on economic fronts doesn't suggest this is a very typical place anyways. It could just be the eccentrics have a big voice here.

Disclaimer : I'm not a leftist, a socialist, I'm not a visible minority.
I'm not Democrat or Republican, I'm not American. So anyone who seeks to label me in order to dismiss my opinion will have to focus on the "horrible" record Canada has in terms of race relations and diversity. Not that labelling someone is correct, it just seems to be standard on here.
So you don't like Americans, America or how America and this web site are run?

Tell us why you're here again.
 
Quote from Nine_Ender:

Don't you have a KKK meeting to get to ?

Quote from Nine_Ender:

I wonder how you would feel if Zimmerman was black and patrolling your neighborhood armed. Would you just accept he's making your neighborhood supposably safer ? Would you appreciate being followed and how would you know he's not a criminal ? What if he had known friends you suspected were in gangs ?
 
Quote from Nine_Ender:

To me its like revisiting 1960s America 50 years later.


Sounds abour right.. here's the way it works out.

Ghetto's get bigger.

Go check out Bill Cosby - Brown vs Board speech, schools and education for the AA is deplorable.

Are Americans really this bigoted, Imo, white people are a bit more tolerant the the old days, it's the dang Mexicans Hispanics asians muslims true africans and various ethic groups who don't put up with shit from the black man.

Oh yeah, lets not forget the riots of the 60's and the continued threat of riots on any given day by AA. Nola's and soon to be florida.

This is the 60's for the black man.
 
Quote from Nine_Ender:

The Political forum tends to send a clear message that labelling people by skin colour and supposed extremist politics is an everyday part of American life.

What about labelling people by their nationality? :D :D
 
Quote from Maverick74:

You have absolutely no perspective. There was a poster who lived down in P&R who had over 30k posts who spent considerable time defending pedophilia. Did he represent all the lefties on ET? No. Maybe a few, but not most and certainly not most Americans. Take a Xanax with a glass of water and relax. Surely you have better things to do with your life.

That doesn't appear to be a valid example with which to not tar leftists. The OP' premise or question is: "are a majority of the posters on the Politics and religion thread seriously racist based on the apparent racists writings of several different posters?" Only one pedophiliac also espousing left wing views doesn't, as you point out, warrant a general connection between the two. It is just not a proper analogy as the OP is referencing several writers.
 
Quote from nondescript:

That doesn't appear to be a valid example with which to not tar leftists. The OP' premise or question is: "are a majority of the posters on the Politics and religion thread seriously racist based on the apparent racists writings of several different posters?" Only one pedophiliac also espousing left wing views doesn't, as you point out, warrant a general connection between the two. It is just not a proper analogy as the OP is referencing several writers.

Here, let me help you out. When that "one" poster went on and on and on and on (i'm not kidding) and on about defending pedophilia, how many lefties came forward and said, hey dude, that's not cool, I have a young daughter or young son, cut it out. Guess how many? Take a wild stab how many, and there were a lot of lefties at the time posting, how many do you think stood up and said anything? I'll answer that for you...NONE. Now, do I really feel all those posters said nothing because deep down inside they support his views on pedophilia? No, of course not. They didn't say anything because he was a fellow lefty! It's the same on the right. I'm sure statistically speaking there are some card carrying bona fide racists in P&R. A normal distribution curve would testify to that. But are "all" or "most" or even a majority" racists? Heavens no. There are probably over 100 so called "righties" posting in P&R and maybe one or two that are a problem. So does that give the poster the right to label ALL P&R or all of ET or worse yet, ALL of America? Come on man. It's nonsensical.

And also, let me add, simply making a racist comment does not make one a racist. Alec Baldwin will testify to that as he went on a rant about calling a reporter a Queen and how he wanted to put his foot in his ass but thought the guy might enjoy it too much. Anderson Cooper called him out on his homophobic remarks and asked why others on the left said nothing? They said nothing because Alec is a card carrying democrat. The same was true when Chris Mathews made racist remarks about the President, he also got a free pass. Apparently, it's not what you say, it's what you mean. Anyway, I digress. The OP has nothing to stand on. Don't defend him.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Here, let me help you out. When that "one" poster went on and on and on and on (i'm not kidding) and on about defending pedophilia, how many lefties came forward and said, hey dude, that's not cool, I have a young daughter or young son, cut it out. Guess how many? Take a wild stab how many, and there were a lot of lefties at the time posting, how many do you think stood up and said anything? I'll answer that for you...NONE. Now, do I really feel all those posters said nothing because deep down inside they support his views on pedophilia? No, of course not. They didn't say anything because he was a fellow lefty! It's the same on the right. I'm sure statistically speaking there are some card carrying bona fide racists in P&R. A normal distribution curve would testify to that. But are "all" or "most" or even a majority" racists? Heavens no. There are probably over 100 so called "righties" posting in P&R and maybe one or two that are a problem. So does that give the poster the right to label ALL P&R or all of ET or worse yet, ALL of America? Come on man. It's nonsensical.

And also, let me add, simply making a racist comment does not make one a racist. Alec Baldwin will testify to that as he went on a rant about calling a reporter a Queen and how he wanted to put his foot in his ass but thought the guy might enjoy it too much. Anderson Cooper called him out on his homophobic remarks and asked why others on the left said nothing? They said nothing because Alec is a card carrying democrat. The same was true when Chris Mathews made racist remarks about the President, he also got a free pass. Apparently, it's not what you say, it's what you mean. Anyway, I digress. The OP has nothing to stand on. Don't defend him.

I agree with you that the assertion of Nine_Ender that racist rants in the P&R thread are emblematic of a deeper problem in our nation is farfetched, inflammatory, and simply shallow.

But I was not defending the OP, although I understand how it appears that I did.

Did Alec Baldwin sat that? That's a good line. John Belushi in a Playboy interview was asked about a criticism that had been leveled at him by a female writer and he responded, "Fuck the bitch. I'd kick her in the cunt but I don't want to ruin my shine". Another line I like.

Partisan denouncement of boorish behavior and offensive commentary usually only occurs if the cost of not doing so outweighs silence. Baldwin is an actor. Had he been a politician, he would have been begging for forgiveness. Mel Gibson, on the other hand, made some extremely offensive anti-Semitic comments when he was drunk and under arrest and was censured by many. The difference I believe was the perception that Baldwin was acting the crass NY tough guy and making a masculine challenge to the reporter whereas Gibson's rant was seen as indicative of a hateful, dangerous and deep seated prejudice.

But perhaps more Democrats should have spoken up to chastise Baldwin, but what can you expect? Some of the Dems are just sissies and fags.
 
Quote from Nine_Ender:

The Political forum tends to send a clear message that labelling people by skin colour and supposed extremist politics is an everyday part of American life. To me its like revisiting 1960s America 50 years later.

Is this simply because the Political forum has been hijacked by an eccentric group of "traders" who are bigoted and in some cases clearly racist in nature ? Or is this really America today ?

I don't expect much from the forum when moderator TGregg is also describing what a "typical poor young black man" represents in the discussion. How about a disturbing stereotype that provides a platform for racists to spew their views ? If a representative of Elite Trader posts this kind of stuff, well, it say a lot about what is wrong with this site or America. Not sure which at this point, the discussion is so vile at times and not many people bother to counter it.

A) Our Republican party seems to think that attacks, lying, etc. are constructive methods to distract from their recent failures which all but destroyed the world. I used to be a registered Republican so I appologize on their behalf.

B) You're on the Internet. You're engaging people who like to debate, are abusive, spend more time with computers than other humans, or are otherwise bored and looking for something to pick up the pace of their day.

C) Yes. Americans are bigoted. Unless they are native American Indian, they have no standing to criticize anyone, but they do continually.
 
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