Are all price patterns the same? (examples)

Quote from river:

Nice “call”. It looks like you nailed the RTL to the tick (but that was an easy one--on Friday afternoon even I was looking for the long to end on bar 1 this morning).

How about a much tougher call (at least in my mind)? What about Tuesday morning? I have price in a lateral at the right trend line at today's close. Will the retrace at the close today become a reversal at the open tomorrow?

-river

Prediction is NOT part of trading to take the full offer of the market.

The sentiment changed to short on bar 78. A FTP followed, then two lat bars. No gaps to correct.

So the open is following an internal lat sequence of P1, T1 and P2. A point will appear that is an "a" turn (DOM to non DOM or a "c" turn DOM to DOM.

If the lateral continues it could be a new P2 or a first T2P.

If a BO occurs, then the lat is over and you go back to the regular routine instead of assigning a value to each lat bar in the primary and secondary sequence.

All you do is enter short @ the opening price and do the work required in the Present. At a bar lock in you analyze. this dictates whethr a decision is called for according to the name of the volume bar if the price bar has givine permission to measure.

Each information parcel is 300 seconds max and less when lock in happened.

as others explained a lot of methods do make money. they have a common thread. they use sequences and the elements of a defined sequence in any system are all defined mathematically and can be automated.

Sequences unfold.

at the end of a day you do know for certain the next day's open entry on the correct side of the market.

Lock in on any bar begins the bar's analysis. The bars analysis contributes to the sequence. the sequence can do either of two things for sertain. So you obey one or the other: hold or reverse.

all sequences end with a sentiment reversal.

The HH stuff only looks at one end of a bar so it does not work.

Relative bars are "lined up" by making sure the prior close is put at the current bar opening value. Only then does any system work without flaws, anomalies or no noise. Any of these three simply indicate that the given system is incomplete.

There is no way anyone here can give the OP the "get out of jail " card.

As you say my calls are easy for me to make.

The net today was 20.3 points pr contract. The reversl turns were on bars: 6, 35, 41, 46, 55, 67 70 and 78. This is a zig zag appearing sequence. I held through 8 turns in this process; see bars: 4, 11, 17, 25, 31, 43, and 49.

Volume is the independent variable and the dependent variable, price, behaves accordingly.

this thread mostly discusses the dependent variable while ignoring the indepeendent variable. this is a no no in mathematics for those who use mathematics as an applied science.

Does anyone know who invented the sledge hammer handle. the handle was the difficult part, I have heard.

16 tons and he still owes the company store. So why did Covell get sucked in by Henry?
 
Quote from horton:

A Sequence conveyed by a Bar Interval presents one of six Pivot Events. These are HH, EH, LH, HL, EL, LL. When the most recent xH or xL Pivot is retested it will Hold or Fail. These Events may be viewed using multiple adjacent Bar Intervals, and the lower order HP and FP Events may be observed to anticipate the higher order HP and EP Events. The Held or Failed Bids and Offers presented by observing the DOM are equivalent to Held and Failed Pivot Events in a very small Bar Interval.

For example, GBP 10m 1.53 Failed Offer presents GBP 300m 1.53 Reheld Pivot to infer GBP Daily 1.53 HL that will infer Daily 1.56 or better. GBP 10m 1.525 invalidates whereas GBP 60m 1.54 offers first exit at 2R.
 
Quote from horton:

For example, GBP 10m 1.53 Failed Offer presents GBP 300m 1.53 Reheld Pivot to infer GBP Daily 1.53 HL that will infer Daily 1.56 or better. GBP 10m 1.525 invalidates whereas GBP 60m 1.54 offers first exit at 2R.

Thanks for clearing that up.
 
Quote from jack hershey:

The sentiment changed to short on bar 78. A FTP followed, then two lat bars. No gaps to correct.

So the open is following an internal lat sequence of P1, T1 and P2. A point will appear that is an "a" turn (DOM to non DOM or a "c" turn DOM to DOM.

Thank you for the response. I find it interesting that we are on opposite sides at the open tomorrow.

Although it's probably beyond the scope of what you have been trying to convey here recently, I would find it very informative if you would contrast your RDBMS system with your methodology as outlined by Spyder. Some of the intricacies escape me. As your reversal points show, sometimes the two "systems" seem to closely match and other times, like end of day today, they do not (in my estimation).

Quote from jack hershey:

Prediction is NOT part of trading to take the full offer of the market.

As I'm long from the FTT on bar 70, I predict one of us will be right on the open :)

Of course, it doesn't matter who is "right" at the open, because, as you say, the systems are self-correcting.

Volume will let us know.

-river
 
Quote from river:

As I'm long from the FTT on bar 70, I predict one of us will be right on the open :)-river

SPX 10m 1630 Held Bid after SPX 10m 1630 Failed Offer to infer SPX 60m 1635 to 1640 Touched. But SPX 1635 is already realized by ES 1632.50 at the Asia open.
 
Quote from horton:

SPX 10m 1630 Held Bid after SPX 10m 1630 Failed Offer to infer SPX 60m 1635 to 1640 Touched. But SPX 1635 is already realized by ES 1632.50 at the Asia open.

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Quote from jack hershey:



as others explained a lot of methods do make money. they have a common thread. they use sequences and the elements of a defined sequence in any system are all defined mathematically and can be automated.

Sequences unfold.


Jack,what do you think about my method?I`d like to hear your opinion.
 

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