AP: Obama has the delegates. Higher taxes on the way.

[Jayford]

Quote from limitdown:

hmmmm,

let's see what we have now?:

(too many to number)

• higher state, local, sales, real estate and use taxes (vechicle, license, etc.)
  
  - would have happened anyway.
  
• higher taxes and fewer payers due to offshored jobs and prefunded jobs-tax breaks to corporations
  
  - free trade creates more jobs than it offshores. This is a fact! It just shifts them.
  
• almost 10,000 dead soldiers and tens of thousands of broken and wounded
  soldiers -- another tax upon the society
  
  - 5,000 dead. I agree. total fuckup here.
  
• excessive tax breaks to the wealthy and excessive bonds and debt incurred just ot pay those refunds
  
  - top 1% pays about 50% of taxes and creates most jobs.
  
• liars to the extreme in office -- a tax burden upon the senses
  
  - always the case.
  
• little to no regulation of the financial markets and allowing (enron) loopholes that have destabilized the very financial systems we have grown up under -- yet another tax and assault
  
  - agree with this one.
  
• cynicism and sound bytes and welfare corporations -- some of the most abusive taxes upon the entire populace
  
  - what?
  
• more to be listed here....
• 400%+ increase in fuel prices -- the worst taxes yet

- has very little to do with the administration. International market. Iraq raised prices in the beginning, but has little to do with it now. Try demand from bric countries, and speculation. BTW, this is demand driven. There is no shortage of oil. The only place where people are rationed are areas where getting it there is difficult combined with subsidized prices (too low). Think BFE China.

yeah,

I see your point,

hey, 4 more years

 

[Aboushi]

If any of you had the guts to say something earlier to your congressman about the government spending on stupid crap, we wouldn't be in debt, and there wouldn't be a tax increase. Plus, I would rather pay much more in taxes when I know that it will stay here, than pay 1/10th of it when I know that it will be used to buy f-16. So to all you uneducated, egotistical, self titled as (traders)....pick up a book and read.

I'm out

 

[gnome]

Quote from Aboushi:

If any of you had the guts to say something earlier to your congressman about the government spending on stupid crap, we wouldn't be in debt, and there wouldn't be a tax increase.

You don't understand. There are always those who complain to Congress and the President about government spending. Gummint's response is always, "GO F*CK YOURSELF... we like things the way they are. It's the GOVERNMENT that counts, not you little shits". "We can do anything we want.. spend any amount we want and charge it to the taxpayers... and there's nothing you can do about it so you might as well STFU!"

 

[austinp]

<i>"yeah,

I see your point,

hey, 4 more years"</i>

eight years of republican reign couldn't have run this country into the ground any faster than they did. To a vast number of voters who don't give much thought to politics, anyone fronting the elephant ticket this fall only represents more of the same. McCain is shackled to eight years of fiscal failure, a lot of dead weight to sled towards victory.

Me? I'll probably vote independent like I'm registered as. When faced with a rock and hard place for choice to lie down, might as well remain standing.

 

[gnome]

Quote from austinp:

<i>"yeah,

I see your point,

hey, 4 more years"</i>

eight years of republican reign couldn't have run this country into the ground any faster than they did. To a vast number of voters who don't give much thought to politics, anyone fronting the elephant ticket this fall only represents more of the same. McCain is shackled to eight years of fiscal failure, a lot of dead weight to sled towards victory.

Me? I'll probably vote independent like I'm registered as. When faced with a rock and hard place for choice to lie down, might as well remain standing.

If another 100 Million voters like you (us) understood, we could do something about it. But alas....

 

[Joab]

Rap Music has been running America for the last 5 years.

Obama is just a product of the mainstream now.

You Americans are hilarious from Bush to Obama

Talk about a swing

You folks need to learn that there is a place called the MIDDLE.

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from limitdown:

hmmmm,

let's see what we have now?:

(too many to number)

• higher state, local, sales, real estate and use taxes (vechicle, license, etc.)
• higher taxes and fewer payers due to offshored jobs and prefunded jobs-tax breaks to corporations
• almost 10,000 dead soldiers and tens of thousands of broken and wounded soldiers -- another tax upon the society
• excessive tax breaks to the wealthy and excessive bonds and debt incurred just ot pay those refunds
• liars to the extreme in office -- a tax burden upon the senses
• little to no regulation of the financial markets and allowing (enron) loopholes that have destabilized the very financial systems we have grown up under -- yet another tax and assault
• cynicism and sound bytes and welfare corporations -- some of the most abusive taxes upon the entire populace
• more to be listed here....
• 400%+ increase in fuel prices -- the worst taxes yet

yeah,

I see your point,

hey, 4 more years

Quote from PAPA ROACH:

...if you can step outside your partisan affiliations and use your brain, (if you idiots have one that works), you can see that democrat or republican is not a boilerplate stamp. In other words, there is no-one that could outspend GW and his massive "conservative" government. That's right, Obama in his wildest dreams will not out spend the idiot that has been ruining our country for the last 7 years.

While you guys worry about taxes, you need to look at the true cost of living. If all you do is look at your pay stub deductions, you are missing that your cost of breathing in this world has about doubled in 43's tenure, oh but your taxes are low, wink wink.

Two breaths of fresh air.

 

[gnome]

Quote from Joab:

Rap Music has been running America for the last 5 years.

Obama is just a product of the mainstream now.

You Americans are hilarious from Bush to Obama

Talk about a swing

You folks need to learn that there is a place called the MIDDLE.

Sometimes they run on a "middle" platform, then act as extremists. Sometimes the other way around. It's of no consequence anyway... it always boils down to choosing between Giant Douche and Turd Sandwich, regardless.

 

[gnome]

Quote from PAPA ROACH:

"... If all you do is look at your pay stub deductions, you are missing that your cost of breathing in this world has about doubled in 43's tenure, oh but your taxes are low, wink wink.

That's primarily because of Bush's deficit spending and the Fed's money-pump on steroids... 15-20% annual rates, recently.

And all along the Talking Heads keep telling us "inflation is 2%, so don't worry about it"... What a pack of LIARS and THIEVES!

 

[gnome]

Quote from gnome:

If another 100 Million voters like you (us) understood, we could do something about it. But alas....

Obama and YoMama are right... we DO need change. But not the kind of change they're talking about.