AOC - can she get any dumber

gwb-trading said:
There is no question that AOC's narrative is already completely debunked. There was no mob pounding at her office door or threatening her. She called the Capital police officer who came to give her instructions a threatening white supremacist who caused her fear.... and a whole string of other inaccuracies. All to make her narrative about herself and not reality.
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Bugenhagen said:
What's the chance Jim Jones Jordan is lead on the attack. Get an abuser to undermine, GOP 101.

"Jim Jordan called me crying, crying, groveling!...Begging me to go against my brother!" DiSabato told the assembled lawmakers. "Begging me! Crying for a half hour! That's the kind of cover-up that's going on there."

"He's not a leader; he's a coward," DiSabato said. "I was a captain...I would never abandon my team. He abandoned us...If I ever see him, he better not come around me."

More time spent on Benghazi than 9/11, 33 hearings, no fault but an actual insurrection, time to 'move on'. It is abuser 101.

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Congressman Darrell Issa was seemingly on his way to making investigation of the Benghazi incident a lifetime work. Only when he retired did we learn that the hearings may have mercifully come to an end. Now I think he is making noises that he would like to return to Congress. So I suppose there may be yet another installment of Benghazi in our future. Just because all of the principal participants are long dead or retired wouldn't necessarily mean there couldn't be yet another investigation.
 
Here4money said:
These are the genocidal militant communists fox warned us about. Look how rabid she is about giving everyone free healthcare!
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Indeed.

Somewhere, some time, some woman gave some guy a clever putdown with an acid tongue, and it still burns.
 
gwb-trading said:
How's the free healthcare working out in Venezuela?
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Wouldn't it be more interesting to know how it is working out in the 14 or so industrialized countries we regularly compare ourselves to?

I continue to be amazed that apparently no one in the United States besides myself has figured out that some important parts of medical care, although essential to human life, can not satisfactorily meet the essential requirement for a free market in either the laissez faire or the buyer and seller are both equally free to walk sense.. So why is it we continue to insist on so-called "free market" solutions? That's what the ACA was. It was a "free market" scheme dreamed up by a Republican Think Tank. The democrats foolishly thought if they offered a Republican solution, Republicans would embrace it. It wasn't however a good example of "right message but wrong messenger," because it was both the wrong message AND the wrong messenger. Essentially it was Romney care doctored in a way that supposedly no one would suffer a decline in profits; yet magically costs would be brought down. This seems to violate what I learned in 9th grade algebra.

The ACA did greatly expand access to care, but it hasn't made much headway on costs. Costs have been brought down in some places, and in some ways, because of de- or re-regulation, and opening up alternative venues for routine care -- what I call the "Walmarting" of medical care. That can't be entirely bad.

But we are still missing the big picture and that is simply that much of medicine does not lend itself to a free market solution. This then is clearly a place where government belongs!
 
piezoe said:
Wouldn't it be more interesting to know how it is working out in the 14 or so industrialized countries we regularly compare ourselves to?

I continue to be amazed that apparently no one in the United States besides myself has figured out that some important parts of medical care, although essential to human life, can not satisfactorily meet the essential requirement for a free market in either the laissez faire or the buyer and seller are both equally free to walk sense.. So why is it we continue to insist on so-called "free market" solutions? That's what the ACA was. It was a "free market" scheme dreamed up by a Republican Think Tank. The democrats foolishly thought if they offered a Republican solution, Republicans would embrace it. It wasn't however a good example of "right message but wrong messenger," because it was both the wrong message AND the wrong messenger. Essentially it was Romney care doctored in a way that supposedly no one would suffer a decline in profits; yet magically costs would be brought down. This seems to violate what I learned in 9th grade algebra.

The ACA did greatly expand access to care, but it hasn't made much headway on costs. Costs have been brought down in some places, and in some ways, because of de- or re-regulation, and opening up alternative venues for routine care -- what I call the "Walmarting" of medical care. That can't be entirely bad.

But we are still missing the big picture and that is simply that much of medicine does not lend itself to a free market solution. This then is clearly a place where government belongs!
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The issue with AOC -- is that her healthcare proposals (which are mere quips) are not reasonable nor are they aligned with the healthcare systems of other western nations.... but her statements and ideals are more aligned with what Venezuela does.

I have previously outlined my support for a public health system for the U.S. which includes a choice of either public or private coverage -- akin to what Germany does.
 
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