Quote from Gabfly1:
Birtherism is the biggest "intellectual" cop-out ever invented. Why attribute disfavor due to birtherism when it is supposedly due to incompetence, corruption or flawed ideology, unless that disfavor is really just flat out racism looking for a suitable box, and having little or nothing to do with incompetence, corruption or flawed ideology? If it really came down to incompetence, corruption or flawed ideology, then why did the "birthers" not focus exclusively on this alleged incompetence, corruption or flawed ideology? Round and round we go.
My thread should have generated agreement among thinking people and a general dismissal of, and outrage towards, the other continuing birther threads being generated here. Instead, the result was somewhat different. I wonder why that is. How many of the ongoing birthers, some of whom have started birther threads subsequent to the president presenting the very document they were supposedly looking for, have you gone out of your way to call trolls? All of them? Five of them? Two of them? A single one, perhaps? No. I did a search. Not a single one. And yet you call me the troll. What does that tell you about you? Hint: it rhymes with asshole.Quote from Tsing Tao:
your intent in posting this brand new thread was to get negative responses, not to initiate new, intelligent discussion. troll.
anyone else doing the same is a troll.
Quote from denner:
Racism is the biggest intellectual cop out ever invented. Why attribute disfavor due to incompetence, corruption or a flawed ideology, when you can simply throw it in the "racism" box.
My naive, well-meaning friend:Quote from Ricter:
So true, it's ad hominem from the very start.
Edit: as racism [and false accusations] would be, too, of course.
Quote from Gabfly1:
My thread should have generated agreement among thinking people and a general dismissall of the other continuing birther threads being generated here. Instead, the result was somewhat different. I wonder why that is. How many of the ongoing birthers, some of whom have started birther threads subsequent to the president presenting the very document they were supposedly looking for, have you gone out of your way to call trolls? All of them? Five of them? Two of them? A single one, perhaps? No. I did a search. Not a single one. What does that tell you about you? Hint: it rhymes with asshole.
Quote from Gabfly1:
My thread should have generated agreement among thinking people and a general dismissal of, and outrage towards, the other continuing birther threads being generated here. Instead, the result was somewhat different. I wonder why that is. How many of the ongoing birthers, some of whom have started birther threads subsequent to the president presenting the very document they were supposedly looking for, have you gone out of your way to call trolls? All of them? Five of them? Two of them? A single one, perhaps? No. I did a search. Not a single one. What does that tell you about you? Hint: it rhymes with asshole.
Quote from olias:
It can be, sure. But often times, racism is the culprit. You live in denial if you think otherwise. To claim racism in an 'intellectual cop out', is an intellectual cop out of its own. It's not always racism. But certainly it's a cop out to say it's NEVER racism.
If McCain were born in Hawaii, do you think this would have been such a big issue?
Now, if Obama had been born in Panama (as McCain was) do you think that would have been an issue?
Really think about it