I guess it depends on how you describe "peak." Supply or demand.
Anyone remember "peak oil" few years back
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Is the assumption here that supply and demand is what sets the price of oil?
Yes, "peak oil". More fiction authored by Wallstreet. Never ends. What will it be next? Peak water? Peak air? Peak soil? Population bomb? A new boogie man?
The real definition is "peak economic oil". We will never extract the last barrel of oil from the earth. But we will reach the last economic barrel soon enough. Come on guys, use your heads.
The dino bones are almost used up!
Since there are so many freaking morons in this thread, I had to step in and clear some things up:
1. The original peak oil prediction (by Hubbard) was made about CRUDE oil. Not shale, not natural gas or diamond sweat, but crude oil.
2. World crude peak oil has already happened, see the chart below.
3. Price is completely different than oil production and depends on many things, including demand, politics and yes, manipulation. As traders or consumers, you care about price, not volume.
4. No, peak oil hasn't happened from day, from the time of the T-Ford. For decades the production of volume raised. What they usually say is that we have been running out of crude from day one, just like every new born is technically dying after birth...(meaning that its days are numbered and don't last forever)
5. That oil never runs out is irrelevant and just silly schemantics, we care about usable oil, not what stays in the Earth and never can be recovered.
By definition, peak CRUDE oil happens when the maximum VOLUME is produced. Not included fraking, shale, natural gas or whatever, and not strongly connected to PRICE. We are talking about just PRODUCED CRUDE VOLUME. Got it???
Once that volume is reached, peak crude oil has been established. Now depends on what source you use, peak crude oil has happened back in 2008 July. (or a bit earlier in 2005) But for simplicity let's stick to 2008 and tatto it on your forearm:
Now if you can produce a CRUDE chart making more oil than this, then I will get you the economic Nobel prize. Other then that stop talking bullshit and educate yourself.
Otherwise Happy New Year!
1. The original peak oil prediction (by Hubbard) was made about CRUDE oil. Not shale, not natural gas or diamond sweat, but crude oil.
2. World crude peak oil has already happened, see the chart below.
3. Price is completely different than oil production and depends on many things, including demand, politics and yes, manipulation. As traders or consumers, you care about price, not volume.
4. No, peak oil hasn't happened from day, from the time of the T-Ford. For decades the production of volume raised. What they usually say is that we have been running out of crude from day one, just like every new born is technically dying after birth...(meaning that its days are numbered and don't last forever)
5. That oil never runs out is irrelevant and just silly schemantics, we care about usable oil, not what stays in the Earth and never can be recovered.
By definition, peak CRUDE oil happens when the maximum VOLUME is produced. Not included fraking, shale, natural gas or whatever, and not strongly connected to PRICE. We are talking about just PRODUCED CRUDE VOLUME. Got it???
Once that volume is reached, peak crude oil has been established. Now depends on what source you use, peak crude oil has happened back in 2008 July. (or a bit earlier in 2005) But for simplicity let's stick to 2008 and tatto it on your forearm:
Now if you can produce a CRUDE chart making more oil than this, then I will get you the economic Nobel prize. Other then that stop talking bullshit and educate yourself.
Otherwise Happy New Year!
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I'll ask you, How much do we burn each day?
How much does the earth produce each day?
true, the earth has been producing for millions of years and we have only been burning for hundreds of years
and from one moron to another, Happy New Year
if you burn more than the earth can produce you have peakedSince there are so many freaking morons in this thread, I had to step in and clear some things up:
1. The original peak oil prediction (by Hubbard) was made about CRUDE oil. Not shale, not natural gas or diamond sweat, but crude oil.
2. World crude peak oil has already happened, see the chart below.
3. Price is completely different than oil production and depends on many things, including demand, politics and yes, manipulation. As traders or consumers, you care about price, not volume.
4. No, peak oil hasn't happened from day, from the time of the T-Ford. For decades the production of volume raised. What they usually say is that we have been running out of crude from day one, just like every new born is technically dying after birth...(meaning that its days are numbered and don't last forever)
5. That oil never runs out is irrelevant and just silly schemantics, we care about usable oil, not what stays in the Earth and never can be recovered.
By definition, peak CRUDE oil happens when the maximum VOLUME is produced. Not included fraking, shale, natural gas or whatever, and not strongly connected to PRICE. We are talking about just PRODUCED CRUDE VOLUME. Got it???
Once that volume is reached, peak crude oil has been established. Now depends on what source you use, peak crude oil has happened back in 2008 July. (or a bit earlier in 2005) But for simplicity let's stick to 2008 and tatto it on your forearm:
Now if you can produce a CRUDE chart making more oil than this, then I will get you the economic Nobel prize. Other then that stop talking bullshit and educate yourself.
Otherwise Happy New Year!
I'll ask you, How much do we burn each day?
How much does the earth produce each day?
true, the earth has been producing for millions of years and we have only been burning for hundreds of years
and from one moron to another, Happy New Year
How much did you lose in the oil crash? 
How can global oil consumption differ much from global oil production? Serious question.
According to the EIA, global oil consumption has averaged around 85 million barrels per day, while the chart above indicates production has averaged around 70 million barrels per day.
How is the world able to consume 15 million barrels per day MORE then what it produces?
https://www.iea.org/media/omrreports/2014/1214/1214image2.png
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Lag time
As oil prices keep plunging, projections of short-term supply and demand balances stay the same - more or less - in the wake of OPEC's decision last month to leave its production target unchanged. Since the last Report, futures benchmark prices fell by another $15/barrel, with Brent last trading near $65/barrel and WTI in the low $60s, 40% below their June highs. Several years of record high prices have induced the root cause of today's rout: a surge in non-OPEC supply to its highest growth ever and a contraction in demand growth to five-year lows.
https://www.iea.org/oilmarketreport/omrpublic/
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Lag time
As oil prices keep plunging, projections of short-term supply and demand balances stay the same - more or less - in the wake of OPEC's decision last month to leave its production target unchanged. Since the last Report, futures benchmark prices fell by another $15/barrel, with Brent last trading near $65/barrel and WTI in the low $60s, 40% below their June highs. Several years of record high prices have induced the root cause of today's rout: a surge in non-OPEC supply to its highest growth ever and a contraction in demand growth to five-year lows.
https://www.iea.org/oilmarketreport/omrpublic/
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