Anyone living (lived) in a pareado or adosado in spain?

Nothing wrong with Porsche, I´d own a Panamera if I didn´t care about money nor practical aspect and would likely own one if they were available at Japanese prices over here.
Even in la Moraleja cars are low end compared to what´s on the street in Shenzhen ( link below to one of AKD floors, a huge second hand car company in Shenzhen, there used to have several similar show rooms in the same building like, although it probably got hit hard when car restrictions were introduced in Shenzhen 3 or 4 years back), and I´m feeling OK with a cheaper SUV, but do get excited anytime I get into a concessionary.
No experience with IE nor IE graduates, just been seeing those 2 spanish MBAs ranked among the top in the world for years. Not too crazy about university rankings btw, having grown up in a place rather similar to provincial Spain, in a rather poor family by local standards and despite all this and absence of much diplomas racked up enough $ to be able to kind retire comfortably in my 40s (made much of the money in my 30s though). Used to do business in a scene where diplomas were unimportant, and 30 y o millionaires/multi millionaires were nothing uncommon (many following on their parents footsteps though)

https://news.cision.com/brightsign/...tone-at-china-s-largest-car-showroom,c9520731

https://www.google.com/search?clien...hUKEwij5JHu5a_kAhWMmBQKHQdqC-UQ4dUDCAY&uact=5
 
luisHK said:
Saying you enjoy high end cars but don´t mind flying eco or travelling in night buses nor care about hotel quality doesn´t make much sense though, especially if you dislike the experience. A piece of advice would be wait to make money to buy expensive cars and start travelling in ways that won´t feel so miserable.
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I can afford to live where you live and buy whatever cars you own and yet equally willing to stay in hostels, drive a cheap car, and travel in greyhound buses. You think I am miserable but I see it as mobility and think you are a slave of money
 
blueraincap said:
I can afford to live where you live and buy whatever cars you own and yet equally willing to stay in hostels, drive a cheap car, and travel in greyhound buses. You think I am miserable but I see it as mobility and think you are a slave of money
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Sure, we´ve understood and are all impressed.
How big was the account with which you were trying to open a fund a while ago ? 1 million usd ?
You can be proud, we are all proud of you.

Seriously it would be fine, if you weren´t trying to go for a golden visa while you don´t yet have the funds to invest in property while keeping enough cash to invest.
Besides as I do not need to work anymore while you are all stressed about your career, claiming I´m the one slave of money is more than a little ironic.
 
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luisHK said:
Besides as I do not need to work anymore while you are all stressed about your career, claiming I´m the one slave of money is more than a little ironic.
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That's a good European life. But Asians like me are stressed all the time and often it is not about money but some 'higher' fulfillment in life that i have yet to come close achieving. If sell my HK flat then all money problem would be solved but rather make it some other fulfilling way. We should stop the discussion as it has turned into a i am richer than you narrative which is meaningless. I started it because you seemed to suggest I don't like spain because I am not rich enough to see it the way you do while i find it to be a slow boring place with lazy people care nothing more than siesta in a stagnant and highly-indebted country with structural trade deficits vis-a-vis N.europe, where people buy their porsche with fiat inflated euro funded by the germans and can never afford to pay back with its 3rd-world terms of trade. In the next Euro crisis, Spain should get kicked out to force a massive restructure and let go for siesta forever.
 
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blueraincap said:
That's a good European life. But Asians like me are stressed all the time and often it is not about money but some 'higher' fulfillment in life that i have yet to come close achieving. If sell my HK flat then all money problem would be solved but rather make it some other fulfilling way. We should stop the discussion as it has turned into a i am richer than you narrative which is meaningless. I started it because you seemed to suggest I don't like spain because I am not rich enough to see it the way you do while i find it to be a slow boring place with lazy people care nothing more than siesta in a stagnant and highly-indebted country with structural trade deficits vis-a-vis N.europe, where people buy their porsche with fiat inflated euro funded by the germans and can never afford to pay back with its 3rd-world terms of trade. In the next Euro crisis, Spain should get kicked out to force a massive restructure and let go for siesta forever.
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Nope, a serious issue in this thread is you making wild claims and comparisons about Spain. Lots of people travel in Spain on a budget and love it, actually very wealthy expats and tourists don´t appear to be the main target market of Spanish government. I´d suggest that´s not for you ( it would no longer be for me), which is fine, but doesn´t make your statements on the state of things in Spain and particularly Madrid any truer.
 
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About the golden visa though, you are lacking of money if your cash is tied to your brokerage account or whatever property you own in HK, hence leaves you only with the 500k e minimum investment available to buy a property where to live, especially if you're hung up on a detached house (break ins are not going down from what I`ve heard, and being the only asian bloke living in a isolated property in a remote village like you contemplated for a while sounds like a frustrating process if your idea was to move to Madrid, plus just a poor idea).
But that´s only about the Golden visa, one doesn´t need to be multimillionaire to visit Spain and get a less negatively biased vision about the country.

And to be clear : i do not advise anyone to invest in property in Spain, nor try to get the Golden Visa there, actually quite the contrary.
 
luisHK said:
Nope, a serious issue in this thread is you making wild claims and comparisons about Spain. Lots of people travel in Spain on a budget and love it, actually very wealthy expats and tourists don´t appear to be the main target market of Spanish government. I´d suggest that´s not for you ( it would no longer be for me), which is fine, but doesn´t make your statements on the state of things in Spain and particularly Madrid any truer.
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I think you misunderstood my meaning of slave of money for slave of not having money, while i meant slave of having money as you seemed to have options narrowed instead of augmented for being rich. Anyways, I only spent 3 months in spain so many of my statements might be false and people see things differently. Alan Greenspan once said he wondered what the fuck made an otherwise stagnant place like venice tick. Obviously many of the million tourists should object furiously. I must say I agree with Mr.Greenspan.
 
blueraincap said:
I think you misunderstood my meaning of slave of money for slave of not having money, while i meant slave of having money as you seemed to have options narrowed instead of augmented for being rich..
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Guy has different priorities as yours , than he must be slave of having money, you re quite a number.
 
luisHK said:
Guy has different priorities as yours , than he must be slave of having money, you re quite a number.
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And if you are not meaning priorities but just the lack of taste to re explore the options yourself happen to find so unpleasant, like sharing a night bus ride with a group of african migrants who try to outdo each other playing loud music, it is also dumb. While the reverse is not true, one still has the option to live miserably with extra cash in a bank account, but also the option to hire a private driver and relax in the back of a Vito or similar van during his ride across Spain. Or just rent a car. Saving oneself the hassle wouldn´t be called being Slave of his money by most sensible people I suspect.
Some happy owner of whole parts of Central Hong Kong apparently enjoy sweating and bitching their whole trip om a shoestring plus weeks later while stroking their ego on how deep an insight into a country they had, following up with nonsensical extrapolations and generalizations, while other more modest folks will just fork out some extra doug and spend the trip smoothly. Having a few bucks to one´s name is usually helpful in making one´s experiences sweeter, it´s not like most Europeans earlier on didn´t get a chance to see how the shittiest parts of society are while growing up nor that it is particularly segregated - in Madrid at least, in Paris for instance it is more so.
As of your priorities and plans on how to raise a mini Musk - who doesn´t even seem to be on the way yet- I´ve seen that in Asia, and as mentioned before I think it sucks, especially for the kids. But than I´m fed up with most things asian, so you could say I´m biaised as well.
 
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