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I can do 100% a month ( obviously not every month ) but cant use 700k to do it with...thats the only problem with my edge..it can only handle 10k-15k ( due to liquidity ) ...but u do the math.... peace.....
 
You will find far better results dividing your money over 10 or 20 traders. Most investors don't understand that just as traders diversify over numerous stocks and trading systems, most investors are better off diversifying over several money managers.
 
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Hmm! Just a query here. You strike me as reasonable in your assessments. Let's work with a small number for discussion purposes, say $50,000. Based on 4% monthly you'd be looking for a return of $2,000 net. As a DD you'd be expecting no more than $2,500. I am assuming that the drawdown is per trading position. And you'd like the manager to not be paid until your net has been passed. And the plan is not for compounding as the monthly would be paid out monthly. In other words, the working/risk capital was $50,000 every month.

Would there be a ceiling on the managers cut if it were to agree on those terms? How about the manager got 90% of everything made above the desired net number if it was exceeded by more than 20%? Sort of a no surplus no pay plan. :)

Hello,

This sounds like an interesting deal - I personally have never heard of anything like it before. The one point regarding DD strikes me as a bit odd, per example, say the fund makes 5k in one month and losses 3k the next. With this case, the fund manager gets 90% of $2500 over "net" one month and nothing the next. Hence, the client would be at 50k + (2.5k + .1*2.5k) - 3k = 49.75k after such a stretch. To me, this is a poor deal since the effective cost of that 90% payout is much higher give a "normal" drawdown".

Mike
 
Quote from Mike805:

Hello,

This sounds like an interesting deal - I personally have never heard of anything like it before. The one point regarding DD strikes me as a bit odd, per example, say the fund makes 5k in one month and losses 3k the next. With this case, the fund manager gets 90% of $2500 over "net" one month and nothing the next. Hence, the client would be at 50k + (2.5k + .1*2.5k) - 3k = 49.75k after such a stretch. To me, this is a poor deal since the effective cost of that 90% payout is much higher give a "normal" drawdown".

Mike
Ok, so our last piece of initial agreement would have to be on the overage amounts. What would you consider a fair premium for over-achievement? I think you'd need a gradient of some kind. :)
 
Quote from ElCubano:

I can do 100% a month ( obviously not every month ) but cant use 700k to do it with...thats the only problem with my edge..it can only handle 10k-15k ( due to liquidity ) ...but u do the math.... peace.....
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Can you manage someone else's money for a fee without a Series 65 License?

I've been wondering how this can be done? From what I understand, if payment is based on performance such as a percentage of assets under management, then you need to be an Investment Advisor with a Series 65 License.



Frank
 
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