Anyone here "NOT" manage a HEDGE fund?

Quote from tireg:

Yeah it does seem that everyone and their mom runs a HF nowadays. But there will always be the BIG players (SAC, Renaissance, Citadel, etc) ........................

post like these are why i keep coming back to elite... thanks tireg. appreciate the effort.
 
Quote from F-Trader:

Unbelievable!

MSNBC said there are approx 11,000 different hedge funds in the US alone. :eek:

This does not incl mutual funds, individual traders, insurance co's, etc...

How many damn people are trading stocks?

What exactly is the definition of a Hedge fund?

How much $$$ is needed?

Is there any type of Registration needed?

Thanks

Mac
not sure - let me ask my trading desk... :cool:

jk
 
Quote from F-Trader:

Ok retard, where did I say I wanted to start a Hedge fund?

I have NO desire, I trade with my own money and make a good living. My WORST year in the last 7 years has been $338,000, my best was 1.7M in 2001.

I wanted REAL world answers, not some friggin SEC crap.


what do you trade?
 
Quote from 99atlantic:

[B- I'd never risk more than a few thousand of my own personal money trading (just don't tell any of my clients that....they might be pissed that I'm willing to take market risks with their money but not my own) ^_^


[/B]


surely, you jest.

surfer:eek:
 
Quote from krazykarl:

what do you trade?

Now I am trading mosty Gold, however back in 2001 I was only swing trading. I was not daytrading as I was involved in a large real estate development.

I had a $600,000 account (cash) and I was short DCEL and made a small fortune. I also had Nextel and several other stocks that all were Home runs. I had 4 stocks that made me over 1 M alone.

I did very well in 2003 also but it seems like the last 3 years have been a grind. I make over $300,000 a year but I was used to making much more in real estate. I got out of real estate in 2002, I exited too early. I had no idea that the next 3 years would be the best years. My previous partner who stayed in the business made millions while I sit here grinding it out for $1,000 or so per day.

You may think a $1,000 a day is good but it is not when you are used to making $125,000 profit by selling a $500,000 home. I did very little work considering the amount of money I was making.

Now I realize how good I had it. To make $750,000 a year in real estate from 1995 - 2002 was easy for me, now I would be luck to make $200,000. Now the real estate market sucks, very little money to be made.
 
Quote from F-Trader:

Now I realize how good I had it. To make $750,000 a year in real estate from 1995 - 2002 was easy for me, now I would be luck to make $200,000. Now the real estate market sucks, very little money to be made.

exit timing is always hard - you know this from experience.

be glad you got out when you did and gained experience somewhere else. you could be an agent out there now that has no other business knowledge to fall back on.

consider the years you "missed out" in real estate tuition for your trading education... :cool: (that's how i look at every loss i book)
 
Quote from 99atlantic:

I manage a $100M hedge fund...go me ^_^ (i really do btw)

Sounds like you think that you can just start one up and investors will throw money at you? Like seriously, is it that hard to google 'hedge fund definition' and read from there?


MMHHHMMM...

If there are any money managers on here (aside from "trading firm" owners) they are likely smart enough to remain silent as declaring on ET that you manage serious money, yet are caught cohorting with cheeseballs from backwoods Ohio, would be about as embarrassing as it gets.
 
Quote from FaderTraderr:

MMHHHMMM...

If there are any money managers on here (aside from "trading firm" owners) they are likely smart enough to remain silent as declaring on ET that you manage serious money, yet are caught cohorting with cheeseballs from backwoods Ohio, would be about as embarrassing as it gets.

You seem to forget he is "ONLY" managing 100 MILLION $$$.

Surely with that Small amount of money he has plenty of time to talk here with us Pikers. :D
 
Quote from 99atlantic:

Sorry, your post made it sound like you were the typical l33t ET internet trader who was ready to start their own fund w/o knowing 1 thing about it :p

But seriously, how can you make 1.7M in 1 year (which i'd say is pretty damn good for 1trader on personal capital) and not know hedge fund basics :/

If you do'nt mind me asking, what was your %Rtn on your 1.7M? Just curious because I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark and say you did that on/around $5M (am I right, am I am I? :D ), which gives you more balls than me - I'd never risk more than a few thousand of my own personal money trading (just don't tell any of my clients that....they might be pissed that I'm willing to take market risks with their money but not my own) ^_^




Mmmm, Alpha *droolz*

in the minute chance the truth is being told here, let us prey for his clients :eek:
 
I can understand his position. Although, if he is talking about not believing in the market then he is a Tool.

A friend of mine manages clients money and does very well and makes a nice living off of it. When he trades his Own money he does terrible, he gets very emotional.

I think this guy is a tool however, a few thousand dollars, pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase. :eek:
 
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