Anyone here like HSI ??

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yep, dunno the exact limitation but can guess....saw countless 20-50lots goin' trough. never traded more than 5 melsef but no much of a prob, usually get a whole fill.


and ya, institutions are heavely involved in this mkt.
 
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Really Def? Would instituitions want to buy 1,2 contracts at each price? I always see some crazy move in a very short amount of time, for example, 100+ pts drop in 2 min, which i havent seen in all other liquid market. Let's put it this way, this contract is far more illiquid than the Dow mini, Stoxx 50, Nikkei, KOSPI. I guess a fair comparison would be the SMI and FTSE.
 
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Really Def? Would instituitions want to buy 1,2 contracts at each price? I always see some crazy move in a very short amount of time, for example, 100+ pts drop in 2 min, which i havent seen in all other liquid market. Let's put it this way, this contract is far more illiquid than the Dow mini, Stoxx 50, Nikkei, KOSPI. I guess a fair comparison would be the SMI and FTSE.
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Yes really. This market is fair more liquid than you realize. Keep in mind HSI is a large contract. It surely isn't as liquid as the Nikkei but if you know how to work the market (and most institutions do), you can get off plenty of size.
 
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Really Def? Would instituitions want to buy 1,2 contracts at each price? I always see some crazy move in a very short amount of time, for example, 100+ pts drop in 2 min, which i havent seen in all other liquid market. Let's put it this way, this contract is far more illiquid than the Dow mini, Stoxx 50, Nikkei, KOSPI. I guess a fair comparison would be the SMI and FTSE.
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I would say their order during those mudslide have a quality between 25 to 50.

Can only see them on the quote screen when they are going throught a bar like 18500 etc...

You do see some larger orders between 10~25 on a smaller move...
 
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Yes really. This market is fair more liquid than you realize. Keep in mind HSI is a large contract. It surely isn't as liquid as the Nikkei but if you know how to work the market (and most institutions do), you can get off plenty of size.
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By the way, any reason I can't trade the MHI ? I'm a US resident.

HSI works fine, but I wouldn't mind doing smaller size.
 
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yeah 10 times better. look at sgxnk also, altough maybe worth waitin' for vola to pick up a bit otherwise that 5points min tick [and spread] is gonna hurt u.
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what time does this contract trade relative to NYC time?
 
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By the way, any reason I can't trade the MHI ? I'm a US resident.

HSI works fine, but I wouldn't mind doing smaller size.
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They are not CFTC approved. If I recall correctly, HSI fell under a clause that provided no-action relief before 2000. Contracts listed after 2000 (like MHI) need to seek separate CFTC approval.
 
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what time does this contract trade relative to NYC time?
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12 or 13 hours time diff depending on standard or daylight savings time.

Currently the futures open at 9:45 AM in HK which = 8:45 PM in NY.

HK hours: 9:45-12:30; 14:30-16:15
 
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They are not CFTC approved. If I recall correctly, HSI fell under a clause that provided no-action relief before 2000. Contracts listed after 2000 (like MHI) need to seek separate CFTC approval.
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so basically i shouldn't hold my breath... ?

thanks,
Mike
 
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