Anyone here ever try Wim Hof breathwork?

Good description! It is also nice to read that someone else lost focus and got hung up on how long can you do the breath hold. I assume that is a natural thing and my goal this time around is to ignore the times.
With my regular meditation I achieved the state you describe more often. I have to say getting to that point does feel like kind of an enlightenment. I am at a loss to describe it beyond a feeling of detachment and drifting, but also fully present.
 
I would say I am closer to 15 minutes in total. I am guessing if you start getting out to 3 minutes or more per hold you can hit 20 minutes. I've only hit 3 minutes 2 times form what I remember.
Wow! And this after the exhale? Impressive.

Tried it for the second time today, and holding for 1.5 minutes after the exhale was easier than it was yesterday. I could have held on a bit longer, but not much. I'm sure I'll increase the hold over time, but I don't know if I'll ever reach your lofty heights.
 
So, you have evolved towards WimHoff.:D If I remember correctly, I shared a video of his with you and you weren't all that impressed. Any hoo, my experience with his breathing techniques went on for about two years and I've gotten away from it in the last year or so. I did them every morning trying to get into a meditative state. I would typically do the deep inhale/exhale routine for about 3-5 minutes and then take a deep breath and hold it. Initially I could do about 2 minutes which increased to about 3 minutes in a month or so. As I continued over a period of months, I found that occasionally I could achieve a meditative state which I'll describe as a separation from mind and body. It was not a clearing of thought altogether, just less need to actively engaged in consciousness. It was during these states which I could hold my breath longer, usually about 3 min 30 seconds. If I couldn't get the meditative state the times were always less, sometimes substantially less. Then came the magical moment when I was truly separated from my body. I realized, maybe felt is a better word, that while my mind and body are connected, they are two completely different things, and one does not really need the other to survive. It was as if what my body is, and who/what I really am are separate, completely separate. On this day I was quite relaxed and casually opened my eyes, looked at my watch and found over four minutes had passed. I was a bit startled, but felt no need or urge to breath, but thought I should take a breath. There was no deep inhale, no sense of needed to catch a breath, just a casual breath. Things changed after that and suddenly it became a how long can I hold my breath contest, so I lost focus of the purpose to achieve the meditative state. I stopped it altogether shortly thereafter. I still do the cold shower thing, though not daily as I used to. Perhaps I should give it a go again.
I'm presently reading a book on breathing that discusses the subject in some detail, along with other methods of breathwork, such as Buteyko and holotropic. And so I thought I'd try it. I wish I looked into the matter when you brought it up! But I'm still hesitant about the cold immersion. Baby steps.

Quick question. The Wim Hof method call for a long breath hold after the exhale, whereas you said you held your breath after the inhale. Are you going rogue, or are you doing the extended breath hold after completing the cycle(s) as an extra feature?
 
I'm presently reading a book on breathing that discusses the subject in some detail, along with other methods of breathwork, such as Buteyko and holotropic. And so I thought I'd try it. I wish I looked into the matter when you brought it up! But I'm still hesitant about the cold immersion. Baby steps.

Quick question. The Wim Hof method call for a long breath hold after the exhale, whereas you said you held your breath after the inhale. Are you going rogue, or are you doing the extended breath hold after completing the cycle(s) as an extra feature?
My experience, and I think it would be everyone's, that I could hold my breath considerably longer after and inhale rather than exhale. With that in mind my belief was it would be easier to get into the deep meditative state in a longer state of oxygen deprivation. For me it worked, kind of, but it was elusive, and like I wrote it became a contest which seemed self-defeating. I think the original method was better for a longer-term commitment to find that separation between mind and body.
 
My experience, and I think it would be everyone's, that I could hold my breath considerably longer after and inhale rather than exhale. With that in mind my belief was it would be easier to get into the deep meditative state in a longer state of oxygen deprivation. For me it worked, kind of, but it was elusive, and like I wrote it became a contest which seemed self-defeating. I think the original method was better for a longer-term commitment to find that separation between mind and body.
When doing the controlled hyperventilating part, do you breathe principally through your mouth? As I noted earlier, I found it difficult to keep pace inhaling through the nose.
 
When doing the controlled hyperventilating part, do you breathe principally through your mouth? As I noted earlier, I found it difficult to keep pace inhaling through the nose.
Inhale and exhale through mouth only. I suppose it's a personal preference. If I remember correctly Hoff stated that doing whatever works for an individual than being strict to one form or another.
 
I'm presently reading a book on breathing that discusses the subject in some detail, along with other methods of breathwork, such as Buteyko and holotropic.
Finished that book yesterday:


It was a genuinely fascinating read. The author is not a doctor or scientist, but rather a science writer who spent some years trotting the globe, researching the subject. I knew that how we breathe can change both our psychology and physiology, but I had no idea to what extent. Apparently, how we breathe can even affect the structure of our face and our air passages.

He discusses the many forms of breathwork and their origins, with a number of them having documented benefits. The thing is, while there are some similarities between and among the different breathwork styles, there are also some meaningful differences - even when seeking the same outcome. So while I would not compare the Wim Hof method with yogic breathing, because their immediate objectives are not the same, there are apparently contradictory differences between relaxation methods. For example, some such methods call for deep, diaphragmatic breathing and pausing after the inhale, while other methods call for under-breathing, so that there is a slight sense of "air hunger" throughout, with pauses after the exhalation, but not after the inhale. Another method calls for no pauses. The only similarity among those relaxation methods is the slowing down of the breathing.

The appendix summarizes the different approaches and their techniques. My takeaway is to do...whatever, so long as it is conscious and intentional. To breathe fast if I want to wind up, and to breathe more slowly if I want to wind down. Everything else seems to be just so much fluff and fold.
 
Did the 3 cycles just now, with a pulse oximeter, which is reportedly accurate to within +-2%. My oxygen went from 98 at the start to a low of 76 during the session. It bounced around and was 86 when I finished. It took a couple of minutes before it went back to 98-99. Have you guys checked your readings?
 
The oximeter we had crapped out last year and I haven't replaced it. When it was working it never crossed my mind to check it, now I wish I had.
I more so go at my own pace, but when I had the video running, I was pretty close to the pace he uses.
 
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