Anyone here ever hear of a guy using the name Grumpee?

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Well Traderwannabe, I can see you are really po'd over your failed two day free trial.
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It was YOUR (or MyTrades Room) free trial that failed. Not mine. PR spinning again are we? Making a point, responding to nonsense replies, etc, does not make me PO'd or a "coward" or any of the other BS thrown around in this thread.
I think you should pay the $250 and come join us. I for one would enjoy you giving the moderators your best constructive comments,lol.
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I would LOVE to come and join you! Don't you get it?!? The only problem is a miserably failed demonstration. If you're that good, then just re-demonstrate. Every method will have a bad day or week or month. So let's just see it on a good day or week. Don't purposefully choose options expiration twice in a row to demonstrate on. Please, that's just way too suspicious. As for educating the rooms moderators (i.e. constructively commenting), that's not my job, I'm not selling a service. If they want to give me free access, I'll sure go in, watch and RESCIND EVERY WORD I HAVE WRITTEN ONCE I SEE PROOF. How's that for a money back guarantee?? If they (and you) are so confident, let's have at it!
But it looks like you only go for free trials and assorted reading materials. BTW, Victor Niederhoffer traded himself into bankruptcy. He showed us pictures of them carting off anything and everything of value from his home. Maybe that hobo 's free advice wasn't so hot.
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"It looks like I only go for free trials" ... what? huh? Have you ever take a freaking business course in your life? Have a clue about marketing or demonstrating value? Jeebus. Never mind that my posts here give you NOTHING to base that statement on.

I go for free trials just like anyone else does, to evaluate what I see. When the trial not just has a hickup, but falls flat on its face, breaks all its teeth and needs jaw surgery (yes, I exagerate but not much), well then that's that.

As for Niederhoffer, I take it you've never read the book or don't know what it refers to. Do you know how many other fantastic traders have gone bankrupt? This is no measure for success, as anyone who's read anything about trading readily knows.
 
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My record is publically available for anyone interested.

...more interested in being seen as "right" than in being helpful, or constructive for those reading this string.
Otherwise why bother with all the accusations about myself, Grump or Lav.

If the trial and the room did not work for you, then that's great. I am glad.
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Can we have access to your publicly available record? Look, I would prefer to be wrong about all of this, and the trial to be just a random mishap. But the evidence just does not point in that direction. Period.

If I'm not solely interested in being seen as "right" then there's no reason to post here? Hmmm. Well I think people reading this thread can judge for themselves on this one. I guess a lot of posters on Elite Trader just want to be seen as right too?

As for the room trial not working, well, it's rather odd that you are glad about that fact! Either it did "work" or it didn't. Either they made 4 - 6 calls per day or they didn't. You're trying to spin this as solely not working for me. Really, I'm not that special. My ears and eyes work more or less just as well as most people's do.
 
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http://sfveritasllc.blogspot.com/
http://protradered.blogspot.com/

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so this is the "private hedge fund investment club" that you trade for? oh please, and this is supposed to lend you some credit or something?! what a joke, rolfmao

LOOK, google "Optionetics" and take a look at how they do business. Yes, a lot of what they offer as a course is available for free as well. Here's the differences:

1. It's 100x better laid out, presented and explained. There are referenced materials, DVDs, CDs, forums, etc. The VALUE is at least 10x that of what MyTrades has to offer.

2. There's a money back guarantee!!

3. The money back guarantee is actually honored!

4. Fontanilis used to run a real fund. Not an investment club. Good luck at your next meeting, have a few drinks for me! LOL!

I visit FREE CHAT ROOMS, all over the internet, where all sorts of people are NETTING (that means after all losses and commissions) several points per day, every day, 4/5 days of the week. These are just regular people like me, working from home. Not making a killing, just making a decent living.
 
OK then, forget about "Optionetics". We are talking about trading the S&P eminis. So what are the "free" rooms out there that are netting 4-5 points everyday?
 
I have seen a trader on Plaltalk called Laptop1 who trades the mini Russell, he dont charge any money, but, he only shows up from time to time, maybe once a week, you got to be lucky to catch him, I have him on my Favs so when he is on line, I look for his room, called a Pro show how to trade. His trades are spot on and based on market orders, so very easy to follow.
 
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OK then, forget about "Optionetics". We are talking about trading the S&P eminis. So what are the "free" rooms out there that are netting 4-5 points everyday?
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ROFLMAO!!!! The PR spinning at work again. Oh boy.

I post about free rooms and more than 4 - 6 TRADES per day and I get a response about 4 - 6 POINTS per day. Spin Spin Sugar! Spin Spin Sugar! Specifically, to quote, I posted "free rooms netting SEVERAL points per day." LOL. Not specific numbers. How obvious is this manipulation! How can you trust anyone that attempts to manipulate?

Also, funny how you don't ask me about the various books (available for free at library or minimal cost online or free via pdf), magazines or other sources of free information that I've mentioned over and over again.

No, you are only interested in comparing other rooms. Hmmm. If I were a shill I would also IGNORE other mediums mentioned and reply / ask questions relating to my direct competition only.

As for Optionetics, if you can read and understand English you'll note my posts have nothing to do with the instrument traded (options vs futures vs stocks) but ENTIRELY with HOW TO DO BUSINESS. Specifically, how to do business to provide VALUE. More specifically, how to stand behind what you sell!

Judge for yourself folks, as always, cuz this is some really good stuff. Entertaining and Educational.
 
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I have seen a trader on Plaltalk called Laptop1 who trades the mini Russell, he dont charge any money, but, he only shows up from time to time, maybe once a week, you got to be lucky to catch him, I have him on my Favs so when he is on line, I look for his room, called a Pro show how to trade. His trades are spot on and based on market orders, so very easy to follow.
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1. Mini Rusell is going bye bye (until futher notice) so let's make sure this guys methods work on YM. If not, no point until further notice of Rusell and ICE. (google it if you don't get it)

2. Free and once per week is 100x more valueable than $250 / month for the crap that MyTrades demonstrated, all assuming this fellow has a decent method and is able to teach it (neither of which MyTrades has, as per their demo)

3. To be clear, his room is "Pro Show How To Trade"? Really, once a week? Maybe I should start a room as I trade at least 4 days a week profitably. I mean really, this is a bit ridiculous. I know I ain't worth $250, maybe $50 at best and from I see MyTrades ain't worth more than $25.

I hope this isn't a way to promote MyTrades as being available 5 days a week with training 2 days and blah blah blah. There still exists a POOR VALUE PROPOSITION. Really, a free mentor that knows his stuff that's available a few times a week is more than enough. Man, I wish I had that available back in the day (and now really, why not!?!).

In fact, I helped a trader recently with various issues revolving around: stop placement, money management and psychological conditioning. All for free. At one point I had to stop typing and take a trade ... it lasted for a few minutes, wasn't acting right, took .75 points ES profit and went back to helping. (the market then went up, paused and then crashed, so i was early, oh well, i made at least 2.5 points ES profit today and entertained a handyman for an hour or two in the meantime)

WITHOUT BLINKING AN EYE!

Jeebus folks ... if you're paying money for anything less than this ... well, then you are the master of your own decisions. All the best.
 
Traderwannabe,
We are all happy you got your money back from Optionetics. Pulling 2.5 points out before the market crashed was just stellar trading on your part too, WTG. Please look into some free anger management soon, just google it.
 
"Kingfish"...there's a name I recall hearing a long time ago. He used to come in another room I hung out in and almost always had a load of b.s. to sling. He opened his own room selling tops and buying bottoms. If I recall he was charging a load of cash to be wrong most of the time. lol, one of the many hucksters. Can't remember enough about him to say for sure, but I don't think he and Grumpee are the same guy. Grumpee seemed more subdued than I remember that moron. Although maybe its his way of not getting caught in another sham. I do remember grump claiming he taught others in another room, my guess would be it was something on Paltalk, but he never said who he was or what room he was teaching in.
As has been said a zillion times, most if not all trading info is available via books or free online. Study your arse off and work your arse off and give yourself a chance to earn a living.
 
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