anyone daytrade CME Globex Swiss Franc Futures?

Quote from nazzdack:

1) True, agreed.
2) I trade the futures, not the cash, spot, forwards, swaps nor any other derivative. The correlation I "see" occurs on an intra-day, daily, weekly and monthly basis.
Regarding #2, futures are exchange-traded fwds, n'est-ce pas? Thus, wouldn't you agree that, if you trade the futures, you are, in fact, trading forward FX? Just for a guide, in CHFUSD 16Jun10 is arnd 8 fwd pts. That is, not so coincidentally, why CHFUSD spot is .9478, while the futures are trading at 94.86.
 
Quote from Martinghoul:
Regarding #2, futures are exchange-traded fwds, n'est-ce pas? Thus, wouldn't you agree that, if you trade the futures, you are, in fact, trading forward FX? Just for a guide, in CHFUSD 16Jun10 is arnd 8 fwd pts. That is, not so coincidentally, why CHFUSD spot is .9478, while the futures are trading at 94.86.
1) No parlay voo frawnsay.
2) Yes, I know that futures are a derivative of forwards that are a derivative of the cash.
3) Does the cash market "move" the futures or is it the other way around with currencies? :confused:
 
Quote from nazzdack:

1) No parlay voo frawnsay.
2) Yes, I know that futures are a derivative of forwards that are a derivative of the cash.
3) Does the cash market "move" the futures or is it the other way around with currencies? :confused:
2) Futures are not derivatives of forwards, futures ARE forwards that are standardized and exchange-traded. Both are derivatives.
3) Let me put it to you this way. The <b>total</b> open interest in all CME CHFUSD futures contracts is 30,583, which is equivalent to a notional amt of arnd Sfr3.8bn. In contrast, the CHFUSD fx fwd mkt deals arnd Sfr14bn notional <b>daily</b> (using BIS and Bank of England estimates). So there's your answer. At the moment, the futures mkt is an irrelevant blip, compared to cash spot/fwd.
 
Right here, right now, the Swiss Franc cash (not the Globex Future) is the instrument I look at first.

Wonderful correlations, and has a sturdy quality in terms of intraday cointegration that just can't be matched by the dollar or the euro.

The SF correlated with energy, certain sovereign debt, and other flight-to-quality instruments. The SF usually leads the way and holds up under pressure.
 
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