anybody else hating this mkt?

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I don't hate the market I hate central banks for interviening in what is suppose to be the "Free Market" without the last LTRO and Fed Swap lines this market would have crashed and burned very quickly because of the underlying systemic problems however once again the system was proped up and pushed equities much higher, its unfortunate that the markets can not trade freely and is constantly the hand of Central Banks moving these markets. Lots of money has left the market and probably will not return because of more and more people realize that the Central Banks and interviening now more than ever to stave off deflation and keep asset prices afloat. The fact that there is realistically fear in the global market place and many investors have really no true direction as fundamentals and how the market is trading is confusing most investors. With Europe's issues far from over its will be just a matter of time before the US is in the spot light for there on going building of debt that will be unsustainable to encourage economic growth. Standard of livings are decreasing and have become worse for the majority of the world. Inflation of real goods causing economic instability because of currency debasement and intervention into free markets.
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I completely agree. It all begins and ends, at least for me, with the ratcheted levels of CB intervention and all of the distortions it creates in not just financial markets, but the economy as a whole.
 
Quote from e92335i08:

I don't hate the market I hate central banks for interviening in what is suppose to be the "Free Market" without the last LTRO and Fed Swap lines this market would have crashed and burned very quickly because of the underlying systemic problems however once again the system was proped up and pushed equities much higher, its unfortunate that the markets can not trade freely and is constantly the hand of Central Banks moving these markets. Lots of money has left the market and probably will not return because of more and more people realize that the Central Banks and interviening now more than ever to stave off deflation and keep asset prices afloat. The fact that there is realistically fear in the global market place and many investors have really no true direction as fundamentals and how the market is trading is confusing most investors. With Europe's issues far from over its will be just a matter of time before the US is in the spot light for there on going building of debt that will be unsustainable to encourage economic growth. Standard of livings are decreasing and have become worse for the majority of the world. Inflation of real goods causing economic instability because of currency debasement and intervention into free markets.
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This is a good example of how someone can totally lose track of reality and base their opinions on popular myths pushed in the US media. China continues to grow significantly ever year now.
There are fiscal issues, yes, but they are manageable and many corporations are excelling in this environment. Equities reflect all aspects, but the #1 aspect is always corporate earnings. I suppose you could invent some giant conspiracy theory on that too.

Standard of living in China started from a much lower base then US citizens might be comfortable with, but it is clearly improving and could never be declared "worse". I have also seen optimistic, believable reports about how well Brazil is doing.

If you were truly an investor, you'd be looking at forward P/Es and other measures of specific companies doing well. Buying AAPL for example has nothing to do with how many employees they hire in the US. Consider that statement, its central to why some speculators are confused right now.
 
If anyone hates this market, go long.

The sentiment feels just like a few months after the flash crash, when the Bernanke bull market was powering through all resistance, pegged on overbought.

:D
 
Quote from shopster:

spread traders can never explain their strategy.

alpha, beta, delta, pi, iron maidens and black sabbath.

markets never change, they go up, down or sideways.
always have, always will.......

if that changes, i will send out a notice.....
don't hold your breath.

but when they roll 'em over and puke it out, you better be short.

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Lol
 
Quote from jeb9999:


Adapt to the market that is or give all your money to those that do.
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The market has many moods.

One tests your fear. One tests your greed.

This one tests your PATIENCE. IMO, patience is the hardest test.

It sucks. But we've been here before.

So just think of it as a helpful, personal-growth exercise in being patient, and go with it.
 
Quote from Clubber Lang:

HFT has absolutely destroyed the market. Volume is gone. Orderly moves are long gone. Intraday trading is just algo's whipsawing back and forth squeezing shorts and pulling the rug on the longs.
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I disagree - the lack of movement is the lack of equities sell program actions in a strong uptrending market. There will be no substantial pullback in indexes until we have a good run of equities sell programs in the cash session. Equities likes current price levels and they do not feel like they need to hit the til yet - once they do you will get your market oscillations back - just be patient.
 
suggest finding real work.

even fake work.

this is a waste of time.

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Quote from stock777:

suggest finding real work.

even fake work.

this is a waste of time.

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Go ahead find some real work. I have no problems with this market - there have been plenty of opportunities in 6E, CL, SI, GC, even indexes.
 
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