Anybody around here remember any of this 70's enviromental stuff?

bugscoe · Apr 23, 2009

Well, after 4.5 billion years the earth is about to end if we don't do something about fat people.

dsq · Apr 23, 2009

Quote from Arnie:

I remember a CBS news special hosted by non other than Walter Cronkite. This was in the mid to late '70's. He said we would run out of oil in the '90's.

I also remember a RE ce class I took in 1980 where the instructor said "The 30 year, fixed rate mortgage is history...you will never see it again..." It was a class on "creative financing". Everyone in ther room believed it, too.

Of course, neither happened.

You guys are laughing at some of the predictions which is fine because many predictions are wrong.
BUT walter cronkite didnt predict global warming,the plastic content in oceans,and the melting ice caps.
Glacier national park almost has no glaciers left.
The warming of the planet in the last 10 and 50yrs is not a natural cycle.Natural cycles take place over hundreds or thousands of years not a decade.

dsq · Apr 23, 2009

check out the trash in the ocean here at this link...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/23/oprah-shines-light-on-gre_n_190552.html

Whats sad is that the video doesnt even mention the plankton and coral are now digesting plastic.The problem is intensified as you move up the food chain.Who s at the top of the food chain?HUMANS.

gigsup · Apr 23, 2009

Quote from Arnie:

I remember a CBS news special hosted by non other than Walter Cronkite. This was in the mid to late '70's. He said we would run out of oil in the '90's.

I also remember a RE ce class I took in 1980 where the instructor said "The 30 year, fixed rate mortgage is history...you will never see it again..." It was a class on "creative financing". Everyone in ther room believed it, too.

Of course, neither happened.

True, I recall a developer telling me that a 12% mortgage was history. Volcker went to work and those rates came right down.

gigsup · Apr 23, 2009

Quote from dsq:

check out the trash in the ocean here at this link...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/23/oprah-shines-light-on-gre_n_190552.html

Whats sad is that the video doesnt even mention the plankton and coral are now digesting plastic.The problem is intensified as you move up the food chain.Who s at the top of the food chain?HUMANS.

There is nothing wrong with having regard for the environment. But do your own thinking because some of these jokers will lead you off the deep end.

dsq · Apr 23, 2009

whats the deep end?
when you eat tuna ,you are eating quite a bit of plastic and mercury?That is just the reality.

CaptainObvious · Apr 23, 2009

Quote from dsq:

You guys are laughing at some of the predictions which is fine because many predictions are wrong.
BUT walter cronkite didnt predict global warming,the plastic content in oceans,and the melting ice caps.
Glacier national park almost has no glaciers left.
The warming of the planet in the last 10 and 50yrs is not a natural cycle.Natural cycles take place over hundreds or thousands of years not a decade.

It's not just that they were wrong, it's that they were SO wrong. Had we followed their goofy suggestions we'd be living in the stone age again. Now we have the same people making the same hysterical predictions of impending doom. One cannot be so wrong and expect to be taken seriously ever again.

dsq · Apr 23, 2009

Their numbers were wrong but their message is more relevant and never more apparent today.
I think what is going on today is much worse than what they predicted.Oil depletion and starvation almost pale in comparison with changing weather patterns, rising temps,sea levels,melting glaciers,rising temps and an ocean feeding on plastic.
Glacier National Park is a misnomer because the glaciers have all but vanished.

I dont know when or if but changing weather patterns would affect the agriculture/food belt of the world.
Water is needed and in california we are in yr 10 of a drought.The southwest is growing in pop and the water is drying up with the hotter temps.Lake mead has dropped 50% in just 9 yrs...vegas,la,san diego,phoenix and all the farms in the southwest all depend on the same shrinking water source.

TraderZones · Apr 23, 2009

Quote from Arnie:

I remember a CBS news special hosted by non other than Walter Cronkite. This was in the mid to late '70's. He said we would run out of oil in the '90's.

I also remember a RE ce class I took in 1980 where the instructor said "The 30 year, fixed rate mortgage is history...you will never see it again..." It was a class on "creative financing". Everyone in ther room believed it, too.

Of course, neither happened.

I believe I saw recently, that they estimated we had 3 trillion (barrels??) of oil on the earth, and figured we had used 1 trillion of that. OF course, some is really expensive/tricky to access.

And with natural gas liquification, coal gasification, nuclear, hydro, biofuels, conservation, alternative energy, new discoveries & exploitations, we will be well supplied (albeit high prices) for a long time. What the CO2 does to the temperature though, that is another issue TBD...