any recommendation for free real-time charting software that work with IB???

Quote from BSAM:

MultiCharts

Thanks.

With the free version (cheap bastard that I am):D can you get everything from 6mo/daily bars to 1day/5min bars, multiple charts of the same symbol, with simple indicators (MA's, fibs) and draw TL's and annotations?
 
Quote from tomahawk:

Thanks.

With the free version (cheap bastard that I am):D can you get everything from 6mo/daily bars to 1day/5min bars, multiple charts of the same symbol, with simple indicators (MA's, fibs) and draw TL's and annotations?

I believe it will fit for you Tommie. Check it out. I replaced QT with it. A bit awkward to set up and get used to, but I think you'll like it. Give it a few days.

Support is nothing like QT, but not too bad for free.
 
Quote from BSAM:

MultiCharts

I tried both MultiCharts and Ninja, there is not much difference about chart quality and indicators. However, there is big difference about loading speed if you use IB data feed. For example, if you checked charts of stock A, B, C, ..... Z once, the chart will load instantly anytime you come back for that stock in Multicharts, but Ninja will take you long time to load the same chart. If you only have one stock or future, and have the chart open all day long, there is no difference. Please try it and let us know your frustration with Ninja loading speed. I had this question for Ray, and he suggested to pay the data from third party, but IB data is free and Multicharts can make it load instantly, I don't know why Ninja can't?
 
Quote from BSAM:

I believe it will fit for you Tommie. Check it out. I replaced QT with it. A bit awkward to set up and get used to, but I think you'll like it. Give it a few days.

Support is nothing like QT, but not too bad for free.

Thanks for the info BSAM, sounds like it's definitely worth a try. I use QT as well but only like it for doing certain things, not everything.
 
Quote from tomahawk:

Thanks for the links, especially that 2nd one. I've never heard of anyone using charts from that site, so I'd love to hear from someone who has and get their critique. I like that it's free (cheap bastard that I am), but if it's any good I'd imagine there'll be a fee for it at some point.

IB's developers have really lost their way now ... can't even get the correct full Globex session on a one-day chart anymore. It seems to have escaped them that "today" starts at 18:00 and goes to 16:15 rather than 00:00 and 23:59, even though high/low on TWS shows it knows the difference.

Not to totally hijack this thread (apologies), but I just opened up my IB charts and the grid problem has been fixed for the moment. The true test will be tomorrow morning, but if things hold up, I will definitely give kudos to IB for fixing this problem so quickly, even though it shouldn't have cropped up in the first place.
 

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Tried this one too.


For a long time I am trading only using constant volume charts (CVBs) and I must admit that I couldn't use others (except tick charts for fine tuning).

If you want to use constant volume charts unfortunately there is only QT that does it's job with IB (though it has bugs).

Multicharts as well as NinjaTrader are not suited for people who need this combo (CVBs and IB).

And my impression is there are also quite some other drawbacks with MC.
 
Quote from traderharley:

I tried both MultiCharts and Ninja, there is not much difference about chart quality and indicators. However, there is big difference about loading speed if you use IB data feed. For example, if you checked charts of stock A, B, C, ..... Z once, the chart will load instantly anytime you come back for that stock in Multicharts, but Ninja will take you long time to load the same chart. If you only have one stock or future, and have the chart open all day long, there is no difference. Please try it and let us know your frustration with Ninja loading speed. I had this question for Ray, and he suggested to pay the data from third party, but IB data is free and Multicharts can make it load instantly, I don't know why Ninja can't?
It's because Ninja honestly loads the charct every time. On the other hand, MC saves the loaded history and keeps tracking the symbol so that when you want to see the chart again it already has the data.

I understand MC was originally designed a TradeStation clone for IB. So, it is there to handle all the quirks of IB API. For Ninja IB is just another data source.

Quote from uexkuell:

If you want to use constant volume charts unfortunately there is only QT that does it's job with IB (though it has bugs).

Multicharts as well as NinjaTrader are not suited for people who need this combo (CVBs and IB).
Same goes here. Because IB doesn't provide true tick data but instead provides irregular snapshots a few times per second, most developers of charting tools decide to ignore this feature altogether.

However, tools designd for IB like MC or ButtonTrader (or QT) take approach of trying to make the most of whetever data they can get... even of resulting charts will look somewhat different from those based on "true" tick data.
 
Quote from LeeD:

It's because Ninja honestly loads the charct every time. On the other hand, MC saves the loaded history and keeps tracking the symbol so that when you want to see the chart again it already has the data.

I understand MC was originally designed a TradeStation clone for IB. So, it is there to handle all the quirks of IB API. For Ninja IB is just another data source.

Same goes here. Because IB doesn't provide true tick data but instead provides irregular snapshots a few times per second, most developers of charting tools decide to ignore this feature altogether.

However, tools designd for IB like MC or ButtonTrader (or QT) take approach of trying to make the most of whetever data they can get... even of resulting charts will look somewhat different from those based on "true" tick data.
Well, for SierraCharts it is another source of data yet it does it very elegantly, indeed. I forgot it cost $18 per month, so it is not free. Perhaps, the previous contributor was right about the free lunch.
 
Quote from tomahawk:

Yes but this is not shocking news to anyone, least of all to them.

Since I started with IB, over 4 years ago, they had this one simple concept right ... a "1-day" chart meant session start to session end, no matter what product or exchange. As of today, for the first time they changed "1-day" to mean a calendar day, on all futures products on all exchanges, which is absolutely retarded. The midnight time threshold means nothing special in any market that I know of.

Once again, IB shows they have little clue about (or regard for) the needs of traders, and makes another completely unnecessary and disruptive change for the worse.

IB offers cheap comms & it has a reasonable API with a FIX interface accessible to retail. I think that's pretty awesome in itself.

As for charts .. there are lots of specialist chart providers out there .. for those who want to believe that charts add value..
 
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