Any reason not to trade 6E over EURUSD?

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You're serious? You can't be.

I K O N trade desk, ask about the exercise convention on the vanilla FX options: 1-212-482-8270 24 Hours

PFG BEST, same question, ask for the FX trade desk: 800.333.5673

The PFG platform is the I K O N platform. lol, you can trade Euro-style options, you just can't exercise 'em prior to expiration!

THE PIC YOU POSTED DISPLAYS EURO-STYLE OPTIONS AT PFG BEST. PFG or I K O N will be happy to inform you of that fact.
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Stop pretending to know what you are talking about and answer the question, clown.

How do you open and close a European Currency Option Contract BEFORE EXP?

Do you even know what makes European different from American style options? You wrote this stuff, not me - LOL!

Clown. :D
 
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Stop pretending to know what you are talking about and answer the question, clown.

How do you open and close a European Currency Option Contract BEFORE EXP?

Do you even know what makes European different from American style options? You wrote this stuff, not me - LOL!

Clown. :D
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Mods, please delete this troll.

You're amusing, so I will answer your question. Euro vanillas differ from American vanillas in exercise convention... you can exercise the American option at any time, but the Euro can only be exercised upon expiration of the contract. You can trade either to open and close, but they are not fungible.

For example, the CME Euro-FX options are Euro-style... are you stating that the open interest is zero? By your logic the options cannot exist because they cannot be traded.

The link you provided shows PFG Best's EURO-STYLE OTC vanilla FX option product. They do no offer American-style options.
 
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...Quite frankly, the current liquidity in the American Style Currency Options business, is NOT large enough for me at this stage. One day, I suspect that will change as more FX intermediaries START TO OFFER ASO. Until then, I need to position more capital than what is safely handled by most platforms that do offer PLAIN VANILLA ASO, as ESO's will simply not work for me.
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You need to stop LYING. My statement was in reference to what I CANNOT do in the currency options market RIGHT NOW. I "likened" PV to ASO given that the trader has the ability to turn them before EXP. That flew right over your head, apparently.

You are correct - I did clearly state my point. What you have done, is what Trolls often times do, taken my words out of their proper context.

Learn to READ IN CONTEXT. The PFGBest link that I posted CLEARLY shows Currency Options that CAN be turned-over prior to EXP and THAT was the crux of the point being made several days ago. Not this BS mole hill you are trying to blow into a mountain.

Go back and look at the context of this thread - the original question asked by the OP and THEN re-read my post on options, instead of blindly trying to find "fault" where there is none. You might just make less of a fool of yourself that way.

You've got almost 5,000 posts on ET, so you should know what Trolling is all about, yeah?
 
Quote from Veyron 16.4:

Stop pretending to know what you are talking about and answer the question, clown.

How do you open and close a European Currency Option Contract BEFORE EXP?

Do you even know what makes European different from American style options? You wrote this stuff, not me - LOL!

Clown. :D
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i dont know whether to laugh or cry ... stop confusing me!
 
Quote from Veyron 16.4:

You need to stop LYING. My statement was in reference to what I CANNOT do in the currency options market RIGHT NOW. I "likened" PV to ASO given that the trader has the ability to turn them before EXP. That flew right over your head, apparently.

You are correct - I did clearly state my point. What you have done, is what Trolls often times do, taken my words out of their proper context.

Learn to READ IN CONTEXT. The PFGBest link that I posted CLEARLY shows Currency Options that CAN be turned-over prior to EXP and THAT was the crux of the point being made several days ago. Not this BS mole hill you are trying to blow into a mountain.

Go back and look at the context of this thread - the original question asked by the OP and THEN re-read my post on options, instead of blindly trying to find "fault" where there is none. You might just make less of a fool of yourself that way.

You've got almost 5,000 posts on ET, so you should know what Trolling is all about, yeah?
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Ohhhh, I see... you cannot "turn them over before exp" if they're Euro-style? That's odd, because many trillions in Euro-style vanillas have been "turned" before expiration.

How exactly am I taking your statements out of context? I stated that you needed to go OTC to gain American conventions, and you produce a link to a small-time OTC dealer in EURO-STYLE OPTIONS. The PFG Best FX vanillas you produced are EURO-STYLE. You flatly-stated they are American-style. It's obvious that you've never traded an FX option in your life. Mea culpa, "turned one over".

So what exactly CAN'T you do right now? Hmmm?

What is the delta of an atm call on USDJPY at zero-swap? What is the best-practice replication of a lookback option?
 
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Ohhhh, I see... you cannot "turn them over before exp" if they're Euro-style? That's odd, because many trillions in Euro-style vanillas have been "turned" before expiration.

How exactly am I taking your statements out of context? I stated that you needed to go OTC to gain American conventions, and you produce a link to a small-time OTC dealer in EURO-STYLE OPTIONS. The PFG Best FX vanillas you produced are EURO-STYLE. You flatly-stated they are American-style. It's obvious that you've never traded an FX option in your life. Mea culpa, "turned one over".

So what exactly CAN'T you do right now? Hmmm?

What is the delta of an atm call on USDJPY at zero-swap? What is the best-practice replication of a lookback option?
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For that matter, what's a Reduced Call/Put Ratio Back Spread Option, or how about some of my engineered derivative favorites such as the Reversible Iron Butterfly Option, or the Encapsulated Double Apex Option, or the Encapsulated Double Apex with Bleed Extensions Option. Or, while we are naming names, how do you unwind a Throughput Ratio Apex Option?

Before you start preaching Option Greeks to me, realize that I almost wrote the book on them and have engineered some of the most timeless equity stock option derivative structures that you will ever see - or more to the point, that you will never see, LOL.

Too funny, kid. You have no idea, do you.
 
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For that matter, what's a Reduced Call/Put Ratio Back Spread Option, or how about some of my engineered derivative favorites such as the Reversible Iron Butterfly Option, or the Encapsulated Double Apex Option, or the Encapsulated Double Apex with Bleed Extensions Option. Or, while we are naming names, how do you unwind a Throughput Ratio Apex Option?

Before you start preaching Option Greeks to me, realize that I almost wrote the book on them and have engineered some of the most timeless equity stock option derivative structures that you will ever see - or more to the point, that you will never see, LOL.

Too funny, kid. You have no idea, do you.
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Yeah, I thought that might shut you up. Let's not have an Options conversation, here.
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I quoted you so you couldn't delete this bullshit. You've never traded an option in your life.
 
oh come on you fuxxing loser: you may be right about your euro style options comments (i did not check it out never bothered with such shady brokers but it sounds right) but everything else shows just what a troll you are. You do the same than what you have done in reply to my posts and many others. You twist the truth and take people out of context.

And when you run out of arguments you start asking some totally unrelated options questions. I could throw options questions at you that shut you up in an instance.

Arrogant prick.



Quote from atticus:

Ohhhh, I see... you cannot "turn them over before exp" if they're Euro-style? That's odd, because many trillions in Euro-style vanillas have been "turned" before expiration.

How exactly am I taking your statements out of context? I stated that you needed to go OTC to gain American conventions, and you produce a link to a small-time OTC dealer in EURO-STYLE OPTIONS. The PFG Best FX vanillas you produced are EURO-STYLE. You flatly-stated they are American-style. It's obvious that you've never traded an FX option in your life. Mea culpa, "turned one over".

So what exactly CAN'T you do right now? Hmmm?

What is the delta of an atm call on USDJPY at zero-swap? What is the best-practice replication of a lookback option?
More...
 
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