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Any Good News for Obama Must Be a Conspiracy
- Thread starter Free Thinker
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If the number was bad it would have been racism.
It doesn't change the fact that there are literally millions of unemployed and underemployed that will vote.
No unemployment number from the BLS will change that.
It doesn't change the fact that there are literally millions of unemployed and underemployed that will vote.
No unemployment number from the BLS will change that.
Quote from Free Thinker:
Today's jobs report is the best news President Obama has received in months. So naturally conservatives assume the whole thing is a giant conspiracy. For most of his presidency, the unemployment rate has been held up as the biggest piece of evidence that President Obama is a failure. When the news came today that it's finally dropped below the level the it was at when he took office, it only took minutes for the doubters to assume the entire enterprise is nothing but a lie.
The biggest name to weigh in was Jack Welch, the former General Electric CEO whose legendary management performance was known to include the occasional manipulation of financial results. The implication of his tweet is the President simply called the Bureau of Labor Statisticsâone of the most trustworthy departments in all of governmentâand got them to lie for him.
For some, that doesn't hold water. (After all, there have been plenty of months where the BLS did him no favors.) There must be something even more sinister going on, tweeted a Senior Writer for the Washington Examiner.
I don't think BLS cooked numbers. I think a bunch of Dems lied about getting jobs. That would have same effect.
â Conn Carroll (@conncarroll) October 5, 2012
Think about what that would mean. Rather than assume that a friendly liberal economist fudged some numbers to help the president's reelection, Carroll thinks it's more plausible that hundreds of thousands of unemployed Democrats simultaneously lied to a survey taker to protect their favorite president. A president who hasn't helped them get a job.
It seems that there is a certain brand of conservatives that is so determined to deny the president the credit for any good news, that they no longer believe good news is even possible. Rather than argue that the change in unemployment might be in spite of, not because of, the president's policiesâa perfectly defensible stanceâthey insist that the change is not even happening. From there, it's not a huge leap to believing that the news is not just wrong, but a deliberate fabrication. Polls showing Romney trailing in key swing states can't just be "within the margin of error," or even unreliable or poorly conceived. They're clearly being altered to help the President.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/10/any-good-news-obama-must-be-conspiracy/57655/
Quote from Free Thinker:
I don't think BLS cooked numbers. I think a bunch of Dems lied about getting jobs. That would have same effect.
â Conn Carroll (@conncarroll) October 5, 2012
Think about what that would mean. Rather than assume that a friendly liberal economist fudged some numbers to help the president's reelection, Carroll thinks it's more plausible that hundreds of thousands of unemployed Democrats simultaneously lied to a survey taker to protect their favorite president. A president who hasn't helped them get a job.
Not implausible.
In 1934 during the Night of the Long Knives, when the SS went to round up the SA leaders, many of them were simply informed with one sentence,
" The Fuhrer demands your death."
The response from those who were to be executed?
"HEIL HITLER!"
It is true and it is documented.
Just shows you how crazy fanaticism can be when a cult of personality takes hold, you cannot shake them out of it, they are willing to do anything for their leader including giving up their very lives. If you are willing to die, what is a simple lie?
I am sure you would not hesitate to sacrifice your life for Obama too if asked.
Perverse as it may sound, There is a certain....poignancy about it.
Too bad Welch popped his cork and distracted from the real unemployment/economic issues.
Following is some level-headed analysis.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/artic...-under-obama?google_editors_picks=true&page=2
Here's one that caught me by surprise:
If you are on disability, you are not considered to be in the labor force either. As of April, we have added 5.5 million people to the disability rolls since the beginning of 2009, several million above the previous trend. There are now roughly 9 million people on disability. In 1992, there was one person on disability for every 35 workers. It is now about one for every 16 workers. It is hard to believe that so many people have become disabled; disability has literally become another fallback position for people out of work. If disability had stayed at the pre-recession growth rate, unemployment would be at least one percentage point higher, leading to a true unemployment rate much closer to 10 percent and perhaps significantly more.
Following is some level-headed analysis.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/artic...-under-obama?google_editors_picks=true&page=2
Here's one that caught me by surprise:
If you are on disability, you are not considered to be in the labor force either. As of April, we have added 5.5 million people to the disability rolls since the beginning of 2009, several million above the previous trend. There are now roughly 9 million people on disability. In 1992, there was one person on disability for every 35 workers. It is now about one for every 16 workers. It is hard to believe that so many people have become disabled; disability has literally become another fallback position for people out of work. If disability had stayed at the pre-recession growth rate, unemployment would be at least one percentage point higher, leading to a true unemployment rate much closer to 10 percent and perhaps significantly more.
Quote from tomdavis:
Too bad Welch popped his cork and distracted from the real unemployment/economic issues.
Following is some level-headed analysis.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/artic...-under-obama?google_editors_picks=true&page=2
Here's one that caught me by surprise:
If you are on disability, you are not considered to be in the labor force either. As of April, we have added 5.5 million people to the disability rolls since the beginning of 2009, several million above the previous trend. There are now roughly 9 million people on disability. In 1992, there was one person on disability for every 35 workers. It is now about one for every 16 workers. It is hard to believe that so many people have become disabled; disability has literally become another fallback position for people out of work. If disability had stayed at the pre-recession growth rate, unemployment would be at least one percentage point higher, leading to a true unemployment rate much closer to 10 percent and perhaps significantly more.
I saw that. What an accomplishment by Obama, doubling the disability rolls, 5 million more democrat voters, probably one of Obama's jobs saved as well.