A lot of them are, does it make them less American? But in any case, the few I know are white who lived in the Southwest and vacationed a ton down under until deciding to retire there.
Any ET members from sh!t hole country?
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A lot of them are, does it make them less American? But in any case, the few I know are white who lived in the Southwest and vacationed a ton down under until deciding to retire there.
No, but it does change the tenor of the situation. People returning to their homeland (which is likely the majority) is significantly different than people choosing to move to a poor country for other reasons.
https://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/35749.htm
<1 million figure
Likely so, the government doesn't like to publish those stats claiming security concerns so it's hard to have a demographics break up.
Agreed, and it dovetails with the common sense analysis that I presented a few pages ago.
I don't really care about opinions, I'm talking about official UN statistics. The number is 876,528 in 2015.
Here is a letter to the Editor in the Raleigh News & Observer today from a Professor of Law at Duke from Haiti which has some interesting historical context regarding Haiti.
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Haiti’s downturns
I am an immigrant from Haiti also known, in some parts, as a s---hole country. Clearly, Haiti has had problems and continues to have problems. Does this qualify us as a s---hole country? I am not sure what the qualifications are but if Haiti does meet the qualifications, let’s look at the top 10 reasons it got there:
1. After the only successful slave revolution, the European powers of the time decided that this could never happen again and the U.S. imposed a blockade on Haiti, not an embargo like Cuba but a complete blockade.
2. The Haitian economy quickly collapsed, especially when the major cash crop was sugar and the newly freed slaves could not sell to anybody.
3. France insisted on Haiti paying reparations for the properties it lost due to the slave revolution, and it took about 150 years for Haiti to repay the “debt.”
4. The U.S. has been intervening, interfering, meddling in Haitian affairs since the dawn of the Monroe Doctrine. Some say the U.S. had evil intentions, but I think it was worse; the U.S. was protecting its interests and if a few Haitians (say a few hundreds of thousands) got hurt in the process, that was just the price for good strong U.S. foreign policy.
5. The U.S. invaded Haiti in 1915 to restore order. The Marines’ first stop? The Haitian National Bank where they confiscated Haiti’s gold.
6. The U.S. protected the Duvalier regimes as much as they could even though the regimes were systematically dismantling whatever fragile institutions Haiti managed to have.
7. How bad were the Duvaliers? Before they took over in 1957, Haiti was on its way to become the industrial powerhouse of the Caribbean. After the Duvaliers – not so much.
8. Bill Clinton destroyed the Haitian rice farmer through his plan to move Haiti to the industrial age by relieving them of the burden of feeding themselves. Basically, the U.S. flooded Haiti with cheaper (for a time) U.S. rice; the Haitian farmer could not compete and went out of business (increasing exodus out of Haiti). He later apologized. At least he did not call us s---hole, but his policy did lasting damage to Haiti. I guess it’s just of matter of picking your poison.
9. Immigration from Haiti has created an immigration bubble where the best and the brightest of Haiti continuously leave for greener pastures. There are more Haitian doctors in Canada or the U.S. than in Haiti. Ouch.
10. The genocide of countless generations of young Africans through the French slaveholders. Upon setting foot on Haiti’s shore, a young African male of 17 would not live to see his 21st birthday.
Yes, Mr. President, Haiti may be, in your opinion, a s---hole country, but it did not get there by lack of character, it received plenty of help.
Reginald Mombrun, BS, JD, LL.M
Professor of Law, NCCU School of Law
http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/article194526394.html
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Haiti’s downturns
I am an immigrant from Haiti also known, in some parts, as a s---hole country. Clearly, Haiti has had problems and continues to have problems. Does this qualify us as a s---hole country? I am not sure what the qualifications are but if Haiti does meet the qualifications, let’s look at the top 10 reasons it got there:
1. After the only successful slave revolution, the European powers of the time decided that this could never happen again and the U.S. imposed a blockade on Haiti, not an embargo like Cuba but a complete blockade.
2. The Haitian economy quickly collapsed, especially when the major cash crop was sugar and the newly freed slaves could not sell to anybody.
3. France insisted on Haiti paying reparations for the properties it lost due to the slave revolution, and it took about 150 years for Haiti to repay the “debt.”
4. The U.S. has been intervening, interfering, meddling in Haitian affairs since the dawn of the Monroe Doctrine. Some say the U.S. had evil intentions, but I think it was worse; the U.S. was protecting its interests and if a few Haitians (say a few hundreds of thousands) got hurt in the process, that was just the price for good strong U.S. foreign policy.
5. The U.S. invaded Haiti in 1915 to restore order. The Marines’ first stop? The Haitian National Bank where they confiscated Haiti’s gold.
6. The U.S. protected the Duvalier regimes as much as they could even though the regimes were systematically dismantling whatever fragile institutions Haiti managed to have.
7. How bad were the Duvaliers? Before they took over in 1957, Haiti was on its way to become the industrial powerhouse of the Caribbean. After the Duvaliers – not so much.
8. Bill Clinton destroyed the Haitian rice farmer through his plan to move Haiti to the industrial age by relieving them of the burden of feeding themselves. Basically, the U.S. flooded Haiti with cheaper (for a time) U.S. rice; the Haitian farmer could not compete and went out of business (increasing exodus out of Haiti). He later apologized. At least he did not call us s---hole, but his policy did lasting damage to Haiti. I guess it’s just of matter of picking your poison.
9. Immigration from Haiti has created an immigration bubble where the best and the brightest of Haiti continuously leave for greener pastures. There are more Haitian doctors in Canada or the U.S. than in Haiti. Ouch.
10. The genocide of countless generations of young Africans through the French slaveholders. Upon setting foot on Haiti’s shore, a young African male of 17 would not live to see his 21st birthday.
Yes, Mr. President, Haiti may be, in your opinion, a s---hole country, but it did not get there by lack of character, it received plenty of help.
Reginald Mombrun, BS, JD, LL.M
Professor of Law, NCCU School of Law
http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/article194526394.html
I see. Corruption does not even get honorable mention.
Only issues that someone else is responsible for allegedly.
"The Marines in 1915." Jeesuzzz H. The world has turned quite a few times since then. Quite a few countries have rough histories but have made at least some progress- and that would be an understatement.
Then he complains about America and Canada taking the best and the brightest. So on even numbered days America is bad for taking immigrants from struggling countries, and on odd numbered days, we are bad for not taking them. Nice. Note that he is a professor at Duke. Shame on America for keeping him come from Haiti and apparently keeping him from going back.
"The U.S. flooded Haiti with cheaper U.S rice." Also known as the U.S tried to provide more affordable rice for people who were starving.
"Bill Clinton had a plan to move Haiti to the Industrial Age." Well, Bill Clinton continues to commit many financial sins related to Haiti. Not sure that is one of them. Choose another from the long list.
I don't dismiss his issues outright, but good gawd, you have to step up to the plate on at least something.
Did I mention corruption which has always served as a barrier to investing directly with local entities? After every disaster there is always the argument that money needs to be given to local NGO's and the government so that they build capacity and good practices rather than just having international/American governments working directly with the people. But then that argument I always countered by those who say the people don't get anything if you do that. Work on that frigging problem a bit, eh.
Projector Lights Up Trump’s D.C. Hotel With ‘Shithole’ And Poop Emojis
The Trump International Hotel’s new makeover was inspired by Donald Trump’s recent immigration meeting.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...hotel-dc-shithole_us_5a5ac62ee4b04f3c55a33624
The Trump International Hotel’s new makeover was inspired by Donald Trump’s recent immigration meeting.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...hotel-dc-shithole_us_5a5ac62ee4b04f3c55a33624
Projector Lights Up Trump’s D.C. Hotel With ‘Shithole’ And Poop Emojis
The Trump International Hotel’s new makeover was inspired by Donald Trump’s recent immigration meeting.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...hotel-dc-shithole_us_5a5ac62ee4b04f3c55a33624
Read that earlier.....I wonder what legal recourse an owner would have to remove a projection?