Any "accidental" career traders out there?

Quote from luckydogg:

Does general market direction really even matter?

Ever see the new Trading Markets contest? They got a dozeen or so Playboy bunnies, like, picking stock, oh my god. One of them is up about 30% this year, so of course they interview her and ask her what her approach is and we are suppose to learn from her.

So what is this bimbo going to tell me?? That silicon is the investment, because it yields diamonds and a free ride on an annual basis.

When I see that, I tend to think its time to start sharpening my shorting skills.
 
I wasn't trying to be a prick but it just seems that you're previous bad spells were in the 2000-2002 bear and your success has been in the three year rebound. To be honest threads like this make me think the top's in place.......

Great story though and kudo's for your perseverance.
Quote from luckydogg:

Well I have made money shorting stocks in a bull market then, so at least I have that experience. Does general market direction really even matter? In other words, it seems to me that as long as there are individual stocks moving either up or down there is money to be made no matter what the indexes or general market is doing. Is that fair to say?
 
"a dozeen or so Playboy bunnies"

I loved it when one of them picked Apple (AAPL) because she always eats one a day...:D

But then, I guess it's as good as most average broker advice....
 
Quote from WaveStrider:

"a dozeen or so Playboy bunnies"

I loved it when one of them picked Apple (AAPL) because she always eats one a day...:D

But then, I guess it's as good as most average broker advice....

Agreed, much better.
 
Quote from Pabst:

I wasn't trying to be a prick but it just seems that you're previous bad spells were in the 2000-2002 bear and your success has been in the three year rebound. To be honest threads like this make me think the top's in place.......

Great story though and kudo's for your perseverance.

1348 next target.

However, this Fall we fall.

November plummet.
 
Great story! Thanks for sharing that with everyone; you deserve your success.

Quote from lescor:

My story is similar to yours and I eventually quite a secure job that I liked to trade full time and have been doing so for 5 years now.

In 1993 I got hooked on Canadian junior gold and diamond exploration companies. I had moved to a city that was built on gold mining and the North American diamond discovery story was in full bloom and in your face every day. Everyone had a tip or an inside connection to the latest discovery. I didn't know a stock from a hole in the ground, but I borrowed as much money as the bank would lend me ($6,000, I was only 23) and put it all on a 75 cent stock. Long story short, I lost money hand over fist, consistently for seven years. I busted out and refunded numerous accounts, but kept making the same mistakes. I finally gave up on the gold mining stories and decided to join the free money dot com train. I again borrowed as much as I could, put it all into a retirement account and put 100% of it into tech stocks in March 2000 and rode it all down 90%.

Obviously I was a sucker for punishment with a high pain threshold and a habit of burying my head in the sand when things went wrong. But I never gave up because <i>I absolutely loved trading</i>. It was in my blood and I wanted to crack this nut more than anything in the world. Eventually I had to fess up and realize that I was a habitual loser and take responsibility for everything. It really was like the 12 step addiction recovery process.

I knew that this was what I wanted to do for a living and that I had to make major changes to make it happen. I swallowed all my pride and started from square one with hard work, modest expectations and more determination than anything I'd ever put my mind to.

For the first time ever, I was not losing money trading. I wasn't making much, but was treading water and learning, keeping detailed records and a journal of how my emotions affected me in every trade.

At the end of 2001 I quite my job, wrote my series 7 and joined a prop firm. I had 18 months of savings set aside. I left my wife and two young kids behind for 3 months and went to the firm's head office to trade and work 15 hours a day and hopefully speed up the learning curve. I lost money for 4 months as I tried various strategies and tweaked things to make them my own, to come up with a method that was mine. By my 6th month I had my account back to even and took my first paycheck in 8 months. At the end of my first year I had made about the same as I had at my old job. In year two I quadrupled that and in year three I paid more in income tax than I had made in my entire 8 year career as a fire fighter. In year five things are still rolling along better than I'd ever imagined.

I think the reason I made it is that when I decided to seriously go at it full time I had already made every mistake in the book numerous times. I had experienced every emotion that a trader can face. I had hit rock bottom and faced all those demons and exorcised them. Everything from that point forward I took 100% responsibility for. But I had a passion that ate me up. Trading is the only thing in my life that I truly felt a yearning for. I HAD to do it.

The passion is still there, though it doesn't burn with the same intensity. I will pull the occasional 15 hour day when I'm going hard on a new idea, but I'm also plenty happy to work only 4 hours a day and look forward to weekends off. Trading is comfortable now. I do not worry about it just stopping. I know that no matter what, I can always grind out a living. I've learned to swing hard at the right time and to reign things in and play a tight defense when things are tough. If it's in your blood and you approach it the right way, stay humble and you make it over that initial hump (and it's a big, steep one), then I think the odds of you sticking around for a long time are pretty good.
 
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