Protesting is peaceful. Attacking police, looting stores, burning stuff down, blocking cars in roads, not following police orders, disobeying curfews, and other violent activities is rioting. You really should learn the difference.
ANTIFA - Rioting and Destroying America
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Protesting is peaceful. Attacking police, looting stores, burning stuff down, blocking cars in roads, not following police orders, disobeying curfews, and other violent activities is rioting. You really should learn the difference.
Portland DA does, which is why not all charges were dismissed
You mean exceeding the bounds of civil behavior to get attention on your cause?
Where could that be coming from?
Trump calls Harris a 'monster'
(Twice)
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/520163-trump-calls-harris-a-monster
Can you point to the post where I defended Trump over his behavior?
Rioters and groups planning violence should both be arrested and prosecuted. There needs to be consequences.
DAs who play "catch & release" with violent rioters are undermining society. This is unacceptable.
Actually I was not thinking you would disagree with my point.
For me, I am not prone to bow to aristocracy as US Conservatives clearly see the presidential office a part of.
Perhaps because I have worked closely with (deca) billionaires, only recited the brainwashing pledge a few weeks in my life attending US high-school and of course Ireland was founded on fuck all those kings and queens.
I just don't see a protestor as "they", I see them as people who are far less destructive than Trump but (would be) punished 100x more by some.
Antifa...
The International Brigades: Fighting Fascism in Spain
"Hemingway, Orwell and a host of others have written gainfully on the International Brigades’ resistance to Spanish Fascism. The book under review, based on extensive interviews and deep research, is considered by the reviewer to be the masterwork."
October 8, 2020 Dan Hancox The Guardian
Excerpt:
"It is true the brigades drew an astonishing array of international literary figures – Orwell, Hemingway, Spender, Auden – and also great photographers, artists, and politicians in the making. But above all, it attracted working-class men and women from across Europe and beyond: many of them already refugees, those fleeing or fearing persecution, unemployment and degradation. There were French, Poles, Germans and Italians in their thousands, but also brigaders from Ethiopia, Argentina, Indonesia, Japan and Pakistan. A good half of those who volunteered were communists, and they did so alongside socialists, anarchists, liberals, democrats, people of all faiths and none, even a few conservatives and politically agnostic adventurers, from 65 countries, with only one thing uniting them: anti-fascism. Remarkable individual lives fly past in a single tantalising line: the three Jewish tailors from Stepney who had “arrived by bicycle”, for example.
"In one of many unforgettable vignettes, a trainload of new volunteers from “all the nations in Europe, and some from outside Europe as well” crossing the border into Spain with no common language, join together to sing the “Internationale”, but each doing so in their own tongue. “I find it extremely difficult to explain how exhilarating this was,” recalls a British volunteer. “I don’t think I’ve ever felt the same feeling at any other time in my life.”
Full review:
https://portside.org/2020-10-08/international-brigades-fighting-fascism-spain
The International Brigades: Fighting Fascism in Spain
"Hemingway, Orwell and a host of others have written gainfully on the International Brigades’ resistance to Spanish Fascism. The book under review, based on extensive interviews and deep research, is considered by the reviewer to be the masterwork."
October 8, 2020 Dan Hancox The Guardian
Excerpt:
"It is true the brigades drew an astonishing array of international literary figures – Orwell, Hemingway, Spender, Auden – and also great photographers, artists, and politicians in the making. But above all, it attracted working-class men and women from across Europe and beyond: many of them already refugees, those fleeing or fearing persecution, unemployment and degradation. There were French, Poles, Germans and Italians in their thousands, but also brigaders from Ethiopia, Argentina, Indonesia, Japan and Pakistan. A good half of those who volunteered were communists, and they did so alongside socialists, anarchists, liberals, democrats, people of all faiths and none, even a few conservatives and politically agnostic adventurers, from 65 countries, with only one thing uniting them: anti-fascism. Remarkable individual lives fly past in a single tantalising line: the three Jewish tailors from Stepney who had “arrived by bicycle”, for example.
"In one of many unforgettable vignettes, a trainload of new volunteers from “all the nations in Europe, and some from outside Europe as well” crossing the border into Spain with no common language, join together to sing the “Internationale”, but each doing so in their own tongue. “I find it extremely difficult to explain how exhilarating this was,” recalls a British volunteer. “I don’t think I’ve ever felt the same feeling at any other time in my life.”
Full review:
https://portside.org/2020-10-08/international-brigades-fighting-fascism-spain
So you are trying to glorify the Communist side in the Spanish Civil War. This is a side that tortured and killed thousands of middle class people. They also murdered thousands of clergy.
Fine example you have there.
Remarkable how you are incapable or changing tack once you form an initial opinion.
A quick Google, a snippet of something suiting your bias and you launch. No depth, no evolution.
In the day the weak points in communism were not well enough understood, that with naive peasants, uneducated like trumpers, there will always rise a strongman, Stalin etc.
But we fucking well know that now. Communism is not robust, it becomes not what is should be. This is about stopping fascism, not about communism.
Who benefits from the heroic notion of anti-fascism being dragged through the right wing propoganda machine?
I saw this and hell do I know but it does seem to apply.
As was just pointed out yesterday, economic harm against people, though spread across many and across time, will eventually be just as damaging as an outright homicide. Spain was highly unequal, with rampant poverty and pestilence, and that was decades in the making. Yeah, it gets messy. Next up: French Revolution. And there are many more examples.
Fa and antifa arise mutually.
Democratic Socialists are Nazi's in disguise.