Not sure I follow you. You're claiming those of us that said there was no collusion Trump had with Russia that influenced the election are "moving the goal posts" by pointing out there is no evidence of it? And you show us an article of Reality Winner as evidence of this? Or something?
Another week, any evidence?
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Not sure I follow you. You're claiming those of us that said there was no collusion Trump had with Russia that influenced the election are "moving the goal posts" by pointing out there is no evidence of it? And you show us an article of Reality Winner as evidence of this? Or something?
No, I'm saying that the original goal post was that the Russians had not tried to influence the election in any shape or form whatsoever.
Do you mind quoting the original post from wildchild, and pointing out where it said that? Where did Wildchild ever imply Russia didnt try to influence the election?
I think this is the kind of thing where both sides get lost in translation. You are making that assumption, but he never said that.
This is the area where left wing sources are making their hey day, with vague assumptions like that, where they try to interpret what people are saying, when their interpretation has no basis in reality.
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I will concede the comment was not directed at wildchild, he has been consistently accepting of the Russian attempts, but you can't deny me the narrative from many on your side has been that Russian attempts were a fantasy made up by the left.
I guess what I'm saying, if and when links are found to say Flynn, Kushner, Manaford, etc... where will the goal post end next?
"Many" is an indiscriminate number, that is hard to analyze.
Yes i believe some people believed the russians didnt try to meddle in our elections, but those people are idiots, the russians and the chinese, and the north koreans, and the iranians, etc... etc... are all trying to meddle in our elections at all times, anyone who denies that is just an idiot in my view.
Trump didnt say they were not trying to meddle in our elections he simply said we have no clue who the hack on the DNC was from, that is two completely different things.
It was thinking of Tsing from a previous discussion we were having:
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/lets-put-this-fire-out-w-gasoline.309728/page-4
and that's the thing, the intelligence agencies do know for a fact it was the Russians, Comey said as much, unless you don't trust the guy, that seems to be a popular stance now a days.
Yeah, i also believe the hacks were from the russians, but saying you dont believe that its provable the hack happened by russians is an entirely different statement from, "Republicans believe russians didnt try to meddle in the election."
This is a very important discrepancy, because its designed by manipulative media to put that thought in your head.
Making a statement that republicans believe russians didnt attempt to meddle in our elections is an entirely different statement, and this is the grey area all kinds of fake news outlets seem to be playing now, and its a very important difference.
You made that statement cause that was the first thing that came to your head, i dont think that is what you would think if you took a second to think about it, but its another very important discrepancy, and its a discrepancy the media is slowly but surely trying to portray, and thats the first thing that comes into your head as a liberal so theyve done their job, its pure propaganda.
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C'mon now, you just have to go through the comment section of any news article or news video hinting at possible evidence of meddling to know how the right felt about those allegations. I'm sure as hell I can find commentators and politicians saying the same before the intelligence agencies started giving briefings in the House and Senate.
LOL, they are talking about that specific hack, they are talking about the release of those specific emails.
Thats a far different thing then saying Russia didnt in any way attempt to meddle in the election.
Like i said its like AAPL's and oranges.
Edit: btw, just realised ive now been trading long enough i spell Apples as AAPL's hahahaha just realised i did that. Kind of funny but guess im the only one who gets that joke.
You make it sound like I've had this conclusion implanted on me by the liberal media (previous post) when in fact I arrived at it myself from observation. FWIW, I don't own a tv, I get most my of my news cont through google news.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_National_Committee_email_leak#cite_note-secretcia-15
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guccifer_2.0
