Another Victim of the Ultra Liberal PC Police in Academia.

[piezoe]

Quote from FixedGrin:

Riley's point is very valid. Although I've taken only an intro class for African studies, I have taken many Women's studies and Asian studies classes. Although the names of these fields would suggest that they study the history and contemporary conditions of these respective groups, Riley hits the nail on the head. Women's studies, and from what Riley has said, African studies focus more on promoting a cause and rigid stances on specific issues that these groups face, or perceive themselves as facing. On the other hand, Asian studies actually IS about the study of different Asian cultures and Asian American cultures. It takes the approach of their cultures not being thoroughly and critically examined, not promoting the wants of certain groups within Asian communities. However, clearly, in this post it seems that I am promoting Asian studies as being academically superior, but I would like to remind you that I am just sharing my experiences on this matter.

Nice to read a well-written, informative post. Thank you.

 

[Mav88]

On the other hand, Asian studies actually IS about the study of different Asian cultures and Asian American cultures

it used to be called things like history and cultural anthropology, then the left took over....

 

[piezoe]

Quote from Max E. Pad:

The position that liberals have staked out for dealing with problems in the minority community are quite literally the exact opposite of what most problem solvers would say is the best way to solve an issue.

Most guys like Anthony Robins or other psychologists will tell you that it is pointless to dwell on the past, and instead, you should deal with what you can fix at the present moment.

Instead the way that liberals want to deal with the problems facing minorities, is put all of the focus on atrocities of the past, and gloss over, or outright ignore all of the problems which are happening in the present, as if the problems will somehow fix themselves, if we only tell people that their poor decisions are not their fault.

So what we end up with is a culture that simply justifies bad behaviour, and then liberals scratch their head when we keep getting the same results.

That, I must say, was one of a very few of your posts worth reading. Congratulations!

 

[FixedGrin]

Quote from Mav88:

it used to be called things like history and cultural anthropology, then the left took over....

What do you mean? History programs that focus on specific regions shouldn't just be called 'history.' Also, Asian studies (as I said before, I'm not in a position to speak on behalf of African studies), also looks at contemporary and traditional philosophy, art history, and economics of Asia, so it is not merely a history program. There's no problem with diversity in education, it's actually a good thing that leads to more ideas and information. But as Riley points out, it stops being productive when it takes on an accusatory tone that does not advance any discussion or critical examination of information.

 

[Mav88]

What do you mean? History programs that focus on specific regions shouldn't just be called 'history.' Also, Asian studies (as I said before, I'm not in a position to speak on behalf of African studies), also looks at contemporary and traditional philosophy, art history, and economics of Asia, so it is not merely a history program. There's no problem with diversity in education, it's actually a good thing that leads to more ideas and information. But as Riley points out, it stops being productive when it takes on an accusatory tone that does not advance any discussion or critical examination of information.

History, Asian History, WWII history, Art History... its all nice, but very prone to manipulation as you point out. We used to call cultural anthropology Social Studies, the name changed that's all.

We don't need some sort of formal 'diversity' in education, education is diversity. As to Humanities leading to anything useful, that stopped happening long ago.

 

[FixedGrin]

Quote from Mav88:

History, Asian History, WWII history, Art History... its all nice, but very prone to manipulation as you point out. We used to call cultural anthropology Social Studies, the name changed that's all.

We don't need some sort of formal 'diversity' in education, education is diversity. As to Humanities leading to anything useful, that stopped happening long ago.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. Diverse people can do whatever they want; I don't care about *enforcing* diversity in student bodies or faculty, it should all be based on merit. I did mean that diversity in fields of studies is very useful as having a variety of topics does expand knowledge.

But please, don't make generalizations about Humanities. There are many useful fields within Humanities (such as English (look at how people write here), Linguistics, and other language programs). However, liberal arts colleges stopped giving any incentives for students in these fields to be competitive and also have stopped providing rigorous programs in these fields.

 

[piezoe]

Quote from Mav88:

... As to Humanities leading to anything useful, that stopped happening long ago.

I was trying to think of a way to respond to your post above in some constructive way that could avoid hurling insults. Sadly, I was unable to.

If only I'd had an even better education in the humanities I might have succeeded.

 

[Fractals 'R Us]

Physicists ask "what is this?
Engineers ask "what can I do with this?"
Social Scientists ask "would you like fries with this?"

We're oversupplied with social scientists, their best bet at a living wage is a career in academia and they will do axe murders to hang on to those jobs. The axe murder with the backing of the lamestream lapdog liberal media is the new paradigm of political dialogue. Liberals pruned the conservative family tree with their public axe murder of Herman Cain because he was actually a conservative. They will defend their jobs in academia with axe murders because it's all they've got, their policies are failing, have failed for decades, but I guess they've got nowhere else to go but to Jesus and they aren't going there...

In Liberalspeak the word "racist" means anybody that wins a debate with a Liberal....

 

[gwb-trading]

Everyone does realize that Afro-American Studies programs are simply a way of providing minority athletes easy A's in no-show courses. The most recent example of this is the recent scandal at UNC Chapel Hill where a report revealed widespread problems in Afro-Studies department including unauthorized grades, forged signatures and other irregularities.

UNC report reveals widespread problems in Afro-Studies department

Prof 'sickened' by UNC academic scandal

More than half of the students enrolled in the classes in question were athletes, according to Nancy Davis, associate vice chancellor for university relations. 246 of them were football players (36 percent of enrollments); 23 were basketball players (3 percent); and 131 (19 percent) were students who competed in Olympic sports.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from gwb-trading:

Everyone does realize that Afro-American Studies programs are simply a way of providing minority athletes easy A's in no-show courses. The most recent example of this is the recent scandal at UNC Chapel Hill where a report revealed widespread problems in Afro-Studies department including unauthorized grades, forged signatures and other irregularities.

UNC report reveals widespread problems in Afro-Studies department

Prof 'sickened' by UNC academic scandal

More than half of the students enrolled in the classes in question were athletes, according to Nancy Davis, associate vice chancellor for university relations. 246 of them were football players (36 percent of enrollments); 23 were basketball players (3 percent); and 131 (19 percent) were students who competed in Olympic sports.

Interesting, but not surprising.