WOW,
That certainly sounds damning if you were unaware that 500mg/day is only 5% of the recommended dose by linus pauling
for cardiovascular health.
Sometimes I swear you and rcg are on here to specifically make me look like a genius.
another supplement bites the dust. fish oil pills are a waste of money:
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That certainly sounds damning if you were unaware that 500mg/day is only 5% of the recommended dose by linus pauling
for cardiovascular health.
Sometimes I swear you and rcg are on here to specifically make me look like a genius.
I have a background in phys/bio/med and these studies always use subclinical dosing as to prove that something that cannot be scripted lacks efficacy. Your article does not show mg/m2 or even mg dosing. I assume the abstract does but I've not read it.
EPA doesn't work? Glaxo must be scamming with Lovaza.
EPA doesn't work? Glaxo must be scamming with Lovaza.
Veggie retards like you & your ilk should realise that humans only got larger brains from eating meat ie fish, which contain a lot of fatty acids
Our brains are at least 70% made of fatty acids
Has the penny dropped yet?
Yes, in the caveman days when starvation was the norm, to get all your nutrients from a VEGGIE DIET - before supermmarkets where you could plan your fucking veggie diet & get all the nutrients in one nice place - you'd literally have to spend most of your waking hours forraging for vegs, never mind eating tons of veggies
Don't forget most veggies are seasonal (in the absence of supermarkets)
In which case - look at most veggie animals - they spend all their fucking lives forraging & chewing veggies of which most aren't easily digestible.
Look at the stupid veggie panda, spends most of its waking hrs eating bamboo (of which it absorbs about 10%) of it
As a result it can't, doesn't have the time or doesn't even know how mate to perpetuate the species!
Stupid fucker doesn't realize it has the digestive system of an OMNIVORE (like its brown bear cousin) & can eat meat
Just like HUMANS, the panda has the digestive system of an OMNIVORE
Like most veggies, the panda similarly hasn't realized this. LOL
With meat, protein & fat is calorie dense, which means you can eat one nice meal & will last you a couple of hrs till the next one, instead of grazing all the day thru which prevents you from doing anything else
Of course we know fat is a useful stored energy source in times of famine & starvation
Veggie idiots don't realize that if early humans were veggies & spent nearly all their time forraging for veggies, they'd have a smaller brain & no rest time...
Eating meat (fish=fatty acids) enabled them to grow bigger brains, have more rest time...meaning they could do more thinking, creating stuff, building the present world, science/tech...more sex for pleasure...etc
If human ancestors were strictly veggies, man would NOT be on the top of the food chain!
Look at stupid veggie animals.
Always fucking angry ie hippo
Mostly stupid ie sheep
Spends most of its life grazing ie cow, giraffe
Invariably lower down on the food chain, prey for carnivores. LOL
What fucking thing have these stupid veggie animals created?
If man were still veggies all the way thru evolution you wouldn't have that iPhone or PC to type on, you old silly senile fucker!
LOL...zzzz
Our brains are at least 70% made of fatty acids
Has the penny dropped yet?
Yes, in the caveman days when starvation was the norm, to get all your nutrients from a VEGGIE DIET - before supermmarkets where you could plan your fucking veggie diet & get all the nutrients in one nice place - you'd literally have to spend most of your waking hours forraging for vegs, never mind eating tons of veggies
Don't forget most veggies are seasonal (in the absence of supermarkets)
In which case - look at most veggie animals - they spend all their fucking lives forraging & chewing veggies of which most aren't easily digestible.
Look at the stupid veggie panda, spends most of its waking hrs eating bamboo (of which it absorbs about 10%) of it
As a result it can't, doesn't have the time or doesn't even know how mate to perpetuate the species!
Stupid fucker doesn't realize it has the digestive system of an OMNIVORE (like its brown bear cousin) & can eat meat
Just like HUMANS, the panda has the digestive system of an OMNIVORE
Like most veggies, the panda similarly hasn't realized this. LOL
With meat, protein & fat is calorie dense, which means you can eat one nice meal & will last you a couple of hrs till the next one, instead of grazing all the day thru which prevents you from doing anything else
Of course we know fat is a useful stored energy source in times of famine & starvation
Veggie idiots don't realize that if early humans were veggies & spent nearly all their time forraging for veggies, they'd have a smaller brain & no rest time...
Eating meat (fish=fatty acids) enabled them to grow bigger brains, have more rest time...meaning they could do more thinking, creating stuff, building the present world, science/tech...more sex for pleasure...etc
If human ancestors were strictly veggies, man would NOT be on the top of the food chain!
Look at stupid veggie animals.
Always fucking angry ie hippo
Mostly stupid ie sheep
Spends most of its life grazing ie cow, giraffe
Invariably lower down on the food chain, prey for carnivores. LOL
What fucking thing have these stupid veggie animals created?
If man were still veggies all the way thru evolution you wouldn't have that iPhone or PC to type on, you old silly senile fucker!
LOL...zzzz
wow you expended a lot of brain energy to write that. after reading it all i can think is wow you just proved this statement wrong, "Veggie idiots don't realize that if early humans were veggies & spent nearly all their time forraging for veggies, they'd have a smaller brain", because something is clearly wrong upstairs.
Here is my personal story, since I like them better than tests in journals:
I haven't taken fish oil for months, but this thread made me realize that I still have a big bucket of it in the medicine cabinet. So about a week ago I restarted to take 2 pills a day (1200 mg per day).
I few weeks ago I noticed that my left knee hurts when I kneel down. Luckily I don't have to do lots of kneeling, but still, it bothered me. Since I have been taking the fish oil, I can put all my weight on the knee and no pain!!!
So I have to thank Free Thinker for starting this thread, because without it, I wouldn't have restarted the fish oil. And another point of this story: Not everybody is taking it for cardio vascular health, as I listed it earlier, for joints and other things it is an excellent painrelief.
One other thing I noted reading testimonials, specially people working out hard. They said, you don't notice it while you are taking it, but when you stop, the pain will return...
Take it what it is, personal testimony....
I haven't taken fish oil for months, but this thread made me realize that I still have a big bucket of it in the medicine cabinet. So about a week ago I restarted to take 2 pills a day (1200 mg per day).
I few weeks ago I noticed that my left knee hurts when I kneel down. Luckily I don't have to do lots of kneeling, but still, it bothered me. Since I have been taking the fish oil, I can put all my weight on the knee and no pain!!!
So I have to thank Free Thinker for starting this thread, because without it, I wouldn't have restarted the fish oil. And another point of this story: Not everybody is taking it for cardio vascular health, as I listed it earlier, for joints and other things it is an excellent painrelief.
One other thing I noted reading testimonials, specially people working out hard. They said, you don't notice it while you are taking it, but when you stop, the pain will return...
Take it what it is, personal testimony....
This was the news a week ago:
http://seekingalpha.com/article/864191-amarin-is-still-a-buy-despite-nce-indecision
"Share prices of Irish clinical-stage biopharmaceutical company Amarin Corporation (AMRN) fell on Tuesday after it announced that the FDA had failed to give a definitive statement on its only approved drug Vascepa's New Chemical Entity (NCE) status. The stock now trades at $13.3, having fallen ~9 % post the news. The coveted status could grant Vascepa the standard five years of marketing exclusivity.
Vascepa is a fish oil drug, which was approved in July for the treatment of high levels of triglycerides in the blood. The MARINE study, conducted in 2010, which treated patients with very high levels of triglycerides showed reduced levels of triglycerides, and furthermore, also indicated little signs of increased low-density lipoprotein (LDL-C), unlike GlaxoSmithKline's (GSK) Lovaza, which raised it 40-50 percent.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/864191-amarin-is-still-a-buy-despite-nce-indecision
"Share prices of Irish clinical-stage biopharmaceutical company Amarin Corporation (AMRN) fell on Tuesday after it announced that the FDA had failed to give a definitive statement on its only approved drug Vascepa's New Chemical Entity (NCE) status. The stock now trades at $13.3, having fallen ~9 % post the news. The coveted status could grant Vascepa the standard five years of marketing exclusivity.
Vascepa is a fish oil drug, which was approved in July for the treatment of high levels of triglycerides in the blood. The MARINE study, conducted in 2010, which treated patients with very high levels of triglycerides showed reduced levels of triglycerides, and furthermore, also indicated little signs of increased low-density lipoprotein (LDL-C), unlike GlaxoSmithKline's (GSK) Lovaza, which raised it 40-50 percent.
Atty, what is your verdict on fish oil? I don't like to put a lot of weight on studies as most of them contradict each other. I tend to use the trial by fire method. I try something in a moderate dose, if it works for "me", then it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't. Why would anyone stop taking something if it's working for them because somebody or some study thinks they are mistaken. Since I have taken fish oil, my cholesterol levels have improved across the board. Every doctor, and I mean every doctor that I have seen the last 10 years has told me to take them. And they are not selling it to me, so we can get rid of the old doctor is getting kickbacks theory. So what say you atty? I tend to not listen to people like free thinker because they have an "activist" point of view about these things. He will never give a balanced perspective on this. I tend to fall in the some drugs are good, some drugs are bad camp. And every person has unique experiences to each drug. No one size fits all model here.
Here's an odd one.
Back in the spring, I started to get a recurring rash on my face. At first I thought it was acne and treated it as such, but after the third time coming back I went to the dermatologist, who prescribed Protopic, which does work very well.
Around the same time, I started taking fish oil. The rash stopped, so I stopped taking Protopic.
As we had a stretch of bright sunny weather around here, I stopped with the fish oil for about a week straight just as this thread was starting up. The rash came back, mildly, but it was back. I started with the Protopic again, and then remembered the guy who said it cleared up his acne, and decided to start the fish oil every day without fail.
We'll see how that goes. I had never made the connection before, but it turns out fish oil is known to be effective against eczema, while its efficacy against acne is somewhat controversial from what I can see; some folks think it helps, others think it hurts. I'll report back here in a month or two on whether this rash ever comes back.