Really? Where do you draw the line between reporting and inciting? Simply reporting news can incite to violence. By your reasoning, let's look at the NYT and Abu Ghraib for starters. Let's look at the hatred spewed daily from political sights toward their opponents. Perhaps some current reports related to the subject of this thread could be considered incitement to violence against all pro lifers, including those who sincerely oppose murder of abortion doctors.
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Really? Where do you draw the line between reporting and inciting? Simply reporting news can incite to violence. By your reasoning, let's look at the NYT and Abu Ghraib for starters. Let's look at the hatred spewed daily from political sights toward their opponents. Perhaps some current reports related to the subject of this thread could be considered incitement to violence against all pro lifers, including those who sincerely oppose murder of abortion doctors.
This is opinion:
"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."
Reporting is dry and factual, not charged with emotion and demogaugery....
Those who can't tell the difference watch Fox News 24/7...
"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."
Reporting is dry and factual, not charged with emotion and demogaugery....
Those who can't tell the difference watch Fox News 24/7...
Quote from wjk:
Really? Where do you draw the line between reporting and inciting? Simply reporting news can incite to violence. By your reasoning, let's look at the NYT and Abu Ghraib for starters. Let's look at the hatred spewed daily from political sights toward their opponents. Perhaps some current reports related to the subject of this thread could be considered incitement to violence against all pro lifers, including those who sincerely oppose murder of abortion doctors.
Quote from OPTIONAL777:
Reporting is dry and factual, not charged with emotion and demogaugery....
Should someone already have a pre-conceived idea, the dry and factual reporting alone may confirm his belief enough to spur him to action.
Reporting is dry and factual, not charged with emotion and demogaugery....
Where does this exist? Fantasy land?
Quote from OPTIONAL777:
This is opinion:
"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."
Reporting is dry and factual, not charged with emotion and demogaugery....
Those who can't tell the difference watch Fox News 24/7...
But Ann Coulter's statement quoted above was expressly an opinion in her own opinion column. It was not even on Fox and no one ever claimed it was news.
Fox is far more balanced than either the other cable channels or the nets.
Quote from bigdavediode:
Don't hold your best cards like that, show us where I said that. You know, if you weren't just making it up.
No, what I've said is that it is not only immoral but shortsighted and actually harmful for the pro-life movement to not (verbally) attack those who ratchet up the rhetoric with statements such as "baby killer", "evil", and other exaggerations to exploit the fears of others for ratings. If the pro-life movement won't vehemently attack these extremists because it's the right thing to do, then they could at least see that it's in the best interests of the pro-life movement to be seen as the moderates as to appeal to undecideds.
In every single post you seem to be having arguments in your head with some imaginary opponents about everything except the topic.
You wrote: "Pro-lifers have to moderate their zeal, or they will continue to generate these ongoing terrorist attacks. All it takes is for you to put one little extra word in, such as "convenience" to motivate some nutcase with a gun. Or O'Reilly to repeat his made-up nickname "Tiller the Baby Killer." It's got to stop."
Just like Clinton did with Rush after Oklahoma City, you claim the pro life movement is responsible for what you term terrorism.
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:
But Ann Coulter's statement quoted above was expressly an opinion in her own opinion column. It was not even on Fox and no one ever claimed it was news.
Fox is far more balanced than either the other cable channels or the nets.
Come on give him a break. Ever sense Bush left the only thing he has left is the delusion of Fox.
O'Reilly and Hannity both whom I watch seldom almost always debate at least one liberal guest. Can you say the same about Olbermann and Maddow? OF COURSE NOT! The management at MSNBC is absolutely oblivous to the negative affects of not actually debating the other side during prime time.
Seriously think about how pitiful it is when your top people can't even once a month debate someone who has opposing views. I would be enraged if I was a liberal who actually wanted to be taken seriously.
Quote from NeoRio1:
I take it if George Bush was murdered you would be telling people that Keith Olbermann should be up on murder charges for inciting murder?
After you answer that question could you possibly tell me what it is like to live with chemicals in your brain that are completely unbalanced which causes compulsive, emotional, ignorant, illogical and outright bias reactions?
Just remember to look both ways when crossing the street.
tell me you fkn moron,when was the last time a right wing nut was assasinated by some left winger????
Murder is the domain of right wing cowards.
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:
Liberals weren't so concerned about the proper limits of polite debate when they were braying for lynch mobs to get Bush and Cheney. Or Rush Limbaugh, or Hannity, or O'Reilly, et al. sarah Palin, right, she was the first female republican VP candidate. They couldn't refer to her without using some of the same vile terms they threw at Carrie Prejean. They showed their class by attacking Palin's pregnant teenage daughter.
The idea that millions of pro life people have to apologize for tiller's death and stop using accurate terms to oppose abortion is ridiculous, just one moe example of a favorite tactic of the hard left. Censor your opponents by accusing them of hate speech, racism, homophobia, etc so that you don't have to debate them on the issues.
The pro abortion zealots like to use neutral sounding words to describe what they are advocating. The liberal media refuse to run ads that accurately depict what is inside a pregnant woman's womb and what happens during an abortion. Too graphic and unsettling, they say. They oppose laws mandating that women get a sonogram and see what they are "terminating". It's better for the bottom line of people like Tiller and Planned Parenthood if they delude them into thinking they are just cleaning up some nonviable tissue mass.
Why can't we just let everyone do what they want? Why try to "impose" pro life values on those who don't care, like obama and his supporters? For the same reason we prosecute people who are cruel to animals. Because it is the right thing to do. Isn't an unborn baby more valuable than a gerbil?
The idea that liberals are concerned about someone "imposing" values is ironic to say the least. They are not shy about imposing their wacky ideas on everyone else. They've managed to ruin the public schools, they want to use the courts to force gay "marriage" on us, they jet across the country daily on private jets to lecture the little people that we have to stop using so much energy. The list is endless. But let a Christian be concerned about an unborn baby, and we are terrorists imposing our religious values on everyone else.
Your post is damn close to that elusive perfect post.
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:
Fox is far more balanced than either the other cable channels or the nets.
You know how I really hate this left/right extreme crap, from both sides. And expect a certain amount of posturing, just because of party affiliation. But this statement is so far from the truth. Fox is good for the Simpsons and South Park. I do like the female broadcasters, however. Murdoch would have heads roll if Fox was even close to balanced.
Not saying Olberman and crew are any better, but to think Fox is not biased is just nonsense.
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