Another "Pro Lifer" kills...

[bigdavediode]

Quote from Barth Vader:

I accept the fact that we disagree, and I would defend your right to hold what ever view you desired to hold. Many men and women, who made it through the womb, have died defending this right.

Great! The first step to moderation is finding common ground and not painting those who disagree about political topics as subhuman or evil.

I do in fact see Tiller as an evil person.

Doh!

I also see the person who aborted Tiller as someone who has committed an evil and hateful act.

And, if I may, I am pleased that we do agree that eating meat is OK.

Glad to see we're finding some delicious common ground.

Next I think we can also agree that it isn't right for vegetarians to kill butcher shop owners, or animal-rights activists to kill laboratory scientists, and that we need to attack those who ratchet up the hateful rhetoric on radio and tv to further their own ratings or this trend will only continue.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

I defy anyone to look at a sonagram of a second trimester baby and say it is a tissue mass. I should say I defy any serious, moral person, which lets out you know who.

The same people who don't want their lifestyle inconvenienced by regulating abortion will go apoplectic if you doubt the wisdom of ruining the economy to "combat" global warming.

One as obvious as the beating heart you see on the screen, the other, a series of wild speculations based on inaccurate models that don't backtest, but guess which value liberals want to impose on us?

 

[Barth Vader]

Quote from bigdavediode:


(1) Next I think we can also agree that it isn't right for vegetarians to kill butcher shop owners,

(2) or animal-rights activists to kill laboratory scientists,

(3) and that we need to attack those who ratchet up the hateful rhetoric on radio and tv to further their own ratings or this trend will only continue.

Regarding item #1 - agreed

Regarding item #2 - agreed

Regarding item #3 - Whoa BigDave........

Rhetoric sounds a little too close to freedom of speech !
Are you stating that the recent televised episode of "Code Pink" members protesting in the face of Mr. Rumsfeld need to be attacked ? As obnoxious as I found the "Code Pink" tactics, I would be the first to yell from the roof tops if someone tried to deny their right to protest.

Surely, we can agree on this, as we eat our Blu Cheese Bacon Hamburger.............

 

[bigdavediode]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

I defy anyone to look at a sonagram of a second trimester baby and say it is a tissue mass. I should say I defy any serious, moral person, which lets out you know who.

Teri Schiavo looked like a person and she wasn't alive by any meaningful definition so I'm not too concerned about a four inch long mass which has just recently lost its tail.

The same people who don't want their lifestyle inconvenienced by regulating abortion will go apoplectic if you doubt the wisdom of ruining the economy to "combat" global warming.

You seem to have some trouble staying on-topic. I can't say for sure, but I don't see how global warming makes their difficult personal decision any of your business.

One as obvious as the beating heart you see on the screen, the other, a series of wild speculations based on inaccurate models that don't backtest, but guess which value liberals want to impose on us?

Wow, those two-dimensional liberals are really quite silly. Any chance of you stowing the namecalling and staying on-topic?

 

[bigdavediode]

Quote from Barth Vader:

Regarding item #1 - agreed

Regarding item #2 - agreed

Regarding item #3 - Whoa BigDave........

Rhetoric sounds a little too close to freedom of speech !

Does it? I suggest that the pro-life movement, if not even for moral purposes but for practical purposes to prevent damage, should actively attack those who ratchet up rhetoric and start broadcasting locations of doctors or calling them "baby killers."

It would be beneficial, not just to society, but to the pro-life movement in general to be actively working to find a common method of reducing abortions while also been seen as the rational alternative, rather than extremist nutcases who rant as the tv hosts do.

Are you stating that the recent televised episode of "Code Pink" members protesting in the face of Mr. Rumsfeld need to be attacked ? As obnoxious as I found the "Code Pink" tactics, I would be the first to yell from the roof tops if someone tried to deny their right to protest.

Surely, we can agree on this, as we eat our Blu Cheese Bacon Hamburger.............

Blue cheese? You're some kind of secret leftist?

I support the two "code pink" ladies' freedom of speech to protest Rumsfeld. And I think you'd agree that the two of them probably didn't do the left any favors by screaming.

Just as O'Reilly doesn't do any favors for the pro-life movement by exploiting their beliefs for his ratings.

 

[Pa(b)st Prime]

Too funny watching the predictable liberal reaction from the media. This weekend SEVEN CHICAGOAN'S in six different incidents-not including the police officer who was slain yesterday- were murdered within miles of Obama's home without a peep from the national media. An abortionist is murdered though and Google provides 7000 hits to the story.

What if the anti-abortion movement made it so that abortionists were scared out of their wits to stay in the business? An admirable goal.

As is, because of the stigma and because most MD's are drawn to the profession to save life rather than terminate life-the number of abortionists has been in decline.

Just like any other hired killer, abortionists should be cognizant of karma being a bitch.

 

[bigdavediode]

Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

What if the anti-abortion movement made it so that abortionists were scared out of their wits to stay in the business? An admirable goal.

"Scaring" is the very definition and justification that is used the world over for terrorism.

As is, because of the stigma and because most MD's are drawn to the profession to save life rather than terminate life-the number of abortionists has been in decline.

Plus they keep being threatened and killed.

Just like any other hired killer, abortionists should be cognizant of karma being a bitch.

Apart from the amorality of your statement -- do you think that you will convince people who are undecided with this line of thought? Or do you think they might see you as dangerous and extreme?

 

[OPTIONAL777]

Such an amazing victim mode diatribe...

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Liberals weren't so concerned about the proper limits of polite debate when they were braying for lynch mobs to get Bush and Cheney. Or Rush Limbaugh, or Hannity, or O'Reilly, et al. sarah Palin, right, she was the first female republican VP candidate. They couldn't refer to her without using some of the same vile terms they threw at Carrie Prejean. They showed their class by attacking Palin's pregnant teenage daughter.

The idea that millions of pro life people have to apologize for tiller's death and stop using accurate terms to oppose abortion is ridiculous, just one moe example of a favorite tactic of the hard left. Censor your opponents by accusing them of hate speech, racism, homophobia, etc so that you don't have to debate them on the issues.

The pro abortion zealots like to use neutral sounding words to describe what they are advocating. The liberal media refuse to run ads that accurately depict what is inside a pregnant woman's womb and what happens during an abortion. Too graphic and unsettling, they say. They oppose laws mandating that women get a sonogram and see what they are "terminating". It's better for the bottom line of people like Tiller and Planned Parenthood if they delude them into thinking they are just cleaning up some nonviable tissue mass.

Why can't we just let everyone do what they want? Why try to "impose" pro life values on those who don't care, like obama and his supporters? For the same reason we prosecute people who are cruel to animals. Because it is the right thing to do. Isn't an unborn baby more valuable than a gerbil?

The idea that liberals are concerned about someone "imposing" values is ironic to say the least. They are not shy about imposing their wacky ideas on everyone else. They've managed to ruin the public schools, they want to use the courts to force gay "marriage" on us, they jet across the country daily on private jets to lecture the little people that we have to stop using so much energy. The list is endless. But let a Christian be concerned about an unborn baby, and we are terrorists imposing our religious values on everyone else.

 

[OPTIONAL777]

"What if the anti-abortion movement made it so that abortionists were scared out of their wits to stay in the business? An admirable goal."

An admirable goal to stop a doctor from performing legal medical procedures through intimidation and fear?

Do you have any respect at all for law and order?

How long have you been a KKK member?

So much for capitalism trumping all...

Fascism is clearly your favorite "ism."

Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

Too funny watching the predictable liberal reaction from the media. This weekend SEVEN CHICAGOAN'S in six different incidents-not including the police officer who was slain yesterday- were murdered within miles of Obama's home without a peep from the national media. An abortionist is murdered though and Google provides 7000 hits to the story.

What if the anti-abortion movement made it so that abortionists were scared out of their wits to stay in the business? An admirable goal.

As is, because of the stigma and because most MD's are drawn to the profession to save life rather than terminate life-the number of abortionists has been in decline.

Just like any other hired killer, abortionists should be cognizant of karma being a bitch.

 

[OPTIONAL777]

"But let a Christian be concerned about an unborn baby, and we are terrorists imposing our religious values on everyone else."

Do you understand the difference between Christians being concerned for their belief system, and illegal actions that threaten the lives and livelihood of medical professionals performing legal medical procedures in the privacy of their office for what is a private medical issue between themselves and their patient?

Terrorists impose their beliefs on others, and intimidate others through the use of violence to promote fear and compliance...

That is exactly what some of the "Pro Lifers" have done, engaged in acts of terrorism...

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Liberals weren't so concerned about the proper limits of polite debate when they were braying for lynch mobs to get Bush and Cheney. Or Rush Limbaugh, or Hannity, or O'Reilly, et al. sarah Palin, right, she was the first female republican VP candidate. They couldn't refer to her without using some of the same vile terms they threw at Carrie Prejean. They showed their class by attacking Palin's pregnant teenage daughter.

The idea that millions of pro life people have to apologize for tiller's death and stop using accurate terms to oppose abortion is ridiculous, just one moe example of a favorite tactic of the hard left. Censor your opponents by accusing them of hate speech, racism, homophobia, etc so that you don't have to debate them on the issues.

The pro abortion zealots like to use neutral sounding words to describe what they are advocating. The liberal media refuse to run ads that accurately depict what is inside a pregnant woman's womb and what happens during an abortion. Too graphic and unsettling, they say. They oppose laws mandating that women get a sonogram and see what they are "terminating". It's better for the bottom line of people like Tiller and Planned Parenthood if they delude them into thinking they are just cleaning up some nonviable tissue mass.

Why can't we just let everyone do what they want? Why try to "impose" pro life values on those who don't care, like obama and his supporters? For the same reason we prosecute people who are cruel to animals. Because it is the right thing to do. Isn't an unborn baby more valuable than a gerbil?

The idea that liberals are concerned about someone "imposing" values is ironic to say the least. They are not shy about imposing their wacky ideas on everyone else. They've managed to ruin the public schools, they want to use the courts to force gay "marriage" on us, they jet across the country daily on private jets to lecture the little people that we have to stop using so much energy. The list is endless. But let a Christian be concerned about an unborn baby, and we are terrorists imposing our religious values on everyone else.