Another Out Of Control Federal Judge Who Should Be Impeached

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Moron

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/17/mueller-probe-could-turn-a-profit-thanks-to-manafort-assets.html

Special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation could turn a profit for the government, thanks to Paul Manafort's asset forfeiture

Tucker Higgins
Jordan Malter
Published 2:52 PM ET Mon, 17 Sept 2018CNBC.com

• Special counsel Robert Mueller secured a win last Friday, with President Donald Trump's former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, pleading guilty to conspiracy charges and agreeing to cooperate with the ongoing investigation.
• Mueller may have also paid for his own investigation.
• That's because, as part of his plea deal with the special counsel, Manafort agreed to forfeit real estate and cash estimated to be worth between $42 million and $46 million.

You are the fucking idiot.

“Although supporters of the investigation think these seized assets should be used to pay for the investigation, the Justice Department denied this would happen.”

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cost-mueller-investigation-171000076.html

 

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If Donnie didn't want to get called out on his crimes, he shouldn't illegally redirect defense tax payers dollars without going through congress.

Not a single crime committed.
not a one...
You guys are laughable.

 

[El OchoCinco]

“Congress’s ‘absolute’ control over federal expenditures_even when that control may frustrate the desires of the Executive Branch regarding initiatives it views as important_is not a bug in our constitutional system. It is a feature of that system, and an essential one,” he wrote in his 56-page opinion.



Trump declared a national emergency in February after losing a fight with the Democratic-led House over fully paying for the wall that led to a 35-day government shutdown. As a compromise on border and immigration enforcement, Congress set aside $1.375 billion to extend or replace existing barriers in Texas’ Rio Grande Valley, the busiest corridor for illegal crossings.

Trump grudgingly accepted the money, but then declared the national emergency to siphon money from other government accounts because he wanted to spend $8 billion on wall construction. The funds include $3.6 billion from military construction funds, $2.5 billion from Defense Department counterdrug activities and $600 million from the Treasury Department’s asset forfeiture fund.

Congress controls the purse strings...this is Con Law 101... Are you OK with a President tkaing funds already committed for one use and then redirecting them unilaterally to another. remember the previous uses were part of Congressional approved budget legislation. I don't care what side you fall on, President's are limited in redirecting Congressionally approved funds to other unrelated uses.

The Constitution purposely gave Congress control over the purse strings.
In the federal government of the United States, the power of the purse is vested in the Congress as laid down in the Constitution of the United States, Article I, Section 9, Clause 7 (the Appropriations Clause) and Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 (the Taxing and Spending Clause).

The power of the purse plays a critical role in the relationship of the United States Congress and the President of the United States, and has been the main historic tool by which Congress has limited executive power.

So, any President that says "The $5 billion that Congress approved for A, I will re direct for B, is an unconstitutional use of power.

 

[Tony Stark]

You are the fucking idiot.

“Although supporters of the investigation think these seized assets should be used to pay for the investigation, the Justice Department denied this would happen.”

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cost-mueller-investigation-171000076.html

When the government sells Manoforts assets,where does the money go moron?

 

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When the government sells Manoforts assets,where does the money go moron?

Hahaha hahahah. Read the fucking quote dipshit.

 

[smallfil]

Here is one more liberal judge legislating from the bench. These guys need to be removed from office if they cannot do their jobs to just interpret the law! If they do not like it, do the right thing and quit! One more reason to urge President Donald Trump to fill all vacancies in the lower courts and appeals court with more conservative judges! If we cannot removed these biased liberal judges, we can atleast, dilute their powers!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/utah-judge-suspended-6-months-183646345.html

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

The power of the purse plays a critical role in the relationship of the United States Congress and the President of the United States, and has been the main historic tool by which Congress has limited executive power.

That is all correct and in fact demonstrates why this district court judge is acting in defiance of the Constitution. Nowhere in Article III are federal judges given the authority to mediate disputes between the Executive and the Legislative Branches. Those a re political questions that should be left to the political process to resolve. As you point out, the Constitution does give congress ample power to deal with a president they believe to be misallocating appropriated funds.

 

[Tony Stark]

Hahaha hahahah. Read the fucking quote dipshit.

Your article says Manaforts assets will be sold by the government,it doesn't say where the money goes after they sell it so I am asking you. When the government sells Manoforts assets,where does the money go idiot?

 

[El OchoCinco]

That is all correct and in fact demonstrates why this district court judge is acting in defiance of the Constitution. Nowhere in Article III are federal judges given the authority to mediate disputes between the Executive and the Legislative Branches. Those a re political questions that should be left to the political process to resolve. As you point out, the Constitution does give congress ample power to deal with a president they believe to be misallocating appropriated funds.

But in this case several States sued over this action. this is the key point as to why the courts got involved. Just want to make it clear that the courts did not block the action unilaterally on their own. 20 States brought the suit and that presented the question to the federal court.

I am too lazy to read how the States established standing to sue to be honest, but the lawsuit is what triggered this. Article III Section 2 grants the court jurisdiction in ths case to hear the lawsuit and lawsuits that challenge constitutionaility are brought all the time (remember when States sued that the Obama Care Act was unconstitutional ...).

I think in this case you have to admit it is factual that the President is reallocating funds to a use not authorized by Congress. If you had a Democratic President and a Democratic Congress, should a President be allowed to misappropriate funds simply becuase Congress is of the same party and will do nothing about it? Fortunately, the misappropriation of funds is a per se unconstitutional and does not require Congress to act if someone sues.

So this process is actually following standard procedure. The Court find the action unconstitutional and remands the issue to Congress to settle if they wish to because the current legislation does not allow it. If they want it, then pass supporting legislation. That is the heart of checks and balances.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

I am too lazy to read how the States established standing to sue to be honest, but the lawsuit is what triggered this. Article III Section 2 grants the court jurisdiction in ths case to hear the lawsuit and lawsuits that challenge constitutionaility are brought all the time (remember when States sued that the Obama Care Act was unconstitutional ...).

I don't see how states would have standing in this either. It is part and parcel of the Judicial Branch vastly expanding its powers at the expense of the other two Branches, in this case the Executive. Of course, liberals and the media are generally pleased with judicial overreach, since it is the main way of forcing unpopular social policies on the country. So they pretend that any edict by any judge, so long as it is against Trump, is sacrosanct and must be obeyed at all costs.

Trump should ignore this order and all other purported nationwide injunctions issued by district court judges. A federal district court, ie a first level trial court that is one step above a non-Article III magistrate, has authority only to decide issues between the litigants before it, not to bind a co-equal branch of government.