Another Floridian just standing his ground

Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

you don't get it do you?
When you are protecting yourself you don't have time to do a 3 month investigation as to exactly what weapons they have or their intent.Besides being outnumbered 5-6 to one is justification for deadly force anyway all by itself if you've already seen a gun barrel.

Had he kept his mouth shut there was nothing to protect himself against. He doesn't like loud music? Tough shit. Had he said something to me in a similar situation I would have told him to fuck off. Then what, he pulls a gun on me? He best gun my ass down in a blink, cause if he doesn's he's in for some shit. Assholes like him need their f'n teeth kicked in.
 
Quote from CaptainObvious:

Had he kept his mouth shut there was nothing to protect himself against. He doesn't like loud music? Tough shit. Had he said something to me in a similar situation I would have told him to fuck off. Then what, he pulls a gun on me? He best gun my ass down in a blink, cause if he doesn's he's in for some shit. Assholes like him need their f'n teeth kicked in.
Actually I 'd say it's stupid fuckers like you who can't or refuse to read that need "their f'n teeth kicked in."

Dunn told police he felt threatened by the response from the teens, the statement said.

Dunn's attorney, Robin Lemonidis, told CNN Monday that Dunn told police that he reacted after having seen a gun barrel in the window of the teens' car and after hearing a profanity-laced string of threats against him and his girlfriend while the teens motioned they were opening the door.

Sounds like self defense to me, esp if outnumbered 5-6/1.
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

Do you think you can go one day without tying something PT posts to the entire GOP? It's really getting old.

PT is the archetypal winger, the country knows this, and until you see it as well, every time the GOP bus crashes because wingers were driving it, you will be on that bus.
 
Quote from RCG Trader:

PT is the archetypal winger, the country knows this, and until you see it as well, every time the GOP bus crashes because wingers were driving it, you will be on that bus.

No, he's not. And you're wrong on this, again.
 
Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

you don't get it do you?
When you are protecting yourself you don't have time to do a 3 month investigation as to exactly what weapons they have or their intent.Besides being outnumbered 5-6 to one is justification for deadly force anyway all by itself if you've already seen a gun barrel.

I get it just fine. I'm not objecting to protecting oneself when a perceived threat is there. But how do YOU know this guy was doing that, and not something else?
 
Quote from RCG Trader:

PT is the archetypal winger...

And you are the archetypal chicken shit lying coward.



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"A Short History of Takers
November 25, 2012, 3:15 pm

"Nicholas Eberstadt of the American Enterprise Institute is one of the unsung heroes of the recent election. His work claiming that we have become a nation of takers, reliant on the government to take care of us, helped define the tone and language with which Republicans talk to each other, especially when they don’t think anyone else is listening; hence Romney’s 47 percent remarks, and President Obama’s road to reelection. Thanks!

"Now, many people have pointed out that Eberstadt’s alleged evidence for the taker hypothesis is really mainly just saying that Medicare and Medicaid have gotten a lot more expensive. So I’m doing prep work for classes next semester, and I thought I’d just graph government transfer payments other than Medicare/Medicaid as a share of GDP. Here’s what it looks like:

<img src="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/11/25/opinion/112512krugman2/112512krugman2-blog480.jpg">

"So, as I read it, this number shoots up in recessions and their aftermath, then declines again, hitting a low during the later Clinton years; but there’s really no trend since the early 70s.

"Indeed: the taking thing is all about health care."

- Paul Krugman

Sorry, Mr. Krugman. The "taking thing" is not all about health care. I'll start a thread on nice post I read on it.
 
Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

....Sounds like self defense to me, esp if outnumbered 5-6/1.
In most states the shooter cannot be responsible in any way for the intiating the conflict that led to a shooting. IOW you can't start an altercation then shoot claiming self defense.

Seems to me this case boils down to:

1) did the shooter in any way help instigate the confrontation?
2) can it be proved any of the teens were armed AND the shooter knew this?

IF the shooter didn't instigate the confrontation AND the "youths" were armed and threatening him. He could blow'em all to Hell for all I care.

IF the shooter is responsible for initiating the confrontation and fired, threatened or not. From a legal standpoint at least. He's making responsible gun owners like me look bad. They can barbecue his ass for all I care.
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

It isn't. I think hugh is trolling for a particular type of replies with that title.

Yep, I was, but I gotta admit - the post with the government entitlement data caught even me by surprise. Just when I think both teams down here have become predictable, one of them finds a new top to go over.
 
Quote from hughb:

Yep, I was, but I gotta admit - the post with the government entitlement data caught even me by surprise. Just when I think both teams down here have become predictable, one of them finds a new top to go over.

So you're referring to my post in response to Ricter's Krugman comment in another thread (which I stated I would start and new thread on for clarity) is comparable to your trying to attack the Stand Your Ground law, and the racial overtones you tried to bring up with the "I hear he's black" victim comment? With no more evidence than a hastily written news flash and no facts at all?

I just want to be clear on what you're comparing here. You're drawing a parallel to a thread that has charts and dozens of slides to prove an argument based on entitlement spending to your first two posts?

The only reason I need to clarify this is because I thought, perhaps incorrectly, that you were rather a witty and clever person given your past performances on this forum (regardless of what side of the fence you were on at the time), and that contrasts so much with the fucking jackwagon I think you're playing here.
 
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