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Another child predator we can "study" to satisfy the Libs
- Thread starter hapaboy
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There are indeed some important points being made here regarding parental responsibility. But in a civilized society, the only risk with which parents should have to be concerned is the risk of accident, not premedated harm. We find ourselves in the position of having to deal with uncivilized predators in a civilized manner, with horrible results.
I have an idea for a new study utilizing the DATELINE computor sting. Divide those ensnared over a given period of time into two study groups. Study group I would go thru the usual and normal process but with detailed records kept regarding the number of repeaters and expense to the public. Study group II would get a dose of neighborhood justice and the same records kept regarding the number of repeaters and expense to the public.
All predators are bullies of one degree or another. If you try to reason with a bully, if you ignore a bully or call the police on a bully, the results will usually be the same - more and worse bullying. But - handled in a different manner, one easier for the bully to comprehend ... then whenever the bully should later see you, think of you or hear your name ... his recollections of the most excruciating pain he's ever experienced triggers an uncontrolable desire for peace and tranquility towards his fellow man. Repetitive unacceptable behavior is minimized at hardly any cost to the taxpayer.
I have an idea for a new study utilizing the DATELINE computor sting. Divide those ensnared over a given period of time into two study groups. Study group I would go thru the usual and normal process but with detailed records kept regarding the number of repeaters and expense to the public. Study group II would get a dose of neighborhood justice and the same records kept regarding the number of repeaters and expense to the public.
All predators are bullies of one degree or another. If you try to reason with a bully, if you ignore a bully or call the police on a bully, the results will usually be the same - more and worse bullying. But - handled in a different manner, one easier for the bully to comprehend ... then whenever the bully should later see you, think of you or hear your name ... his recollections of the most excruciating pain he's ever experienced triggers an uncontrolable desire for peace and tranquility towards his fellow man. Repetitive unacceptable behavior is minimized at hardly any cost to the taxpayer.
Quote from g222:
Predators do indeed come in different 'packages', but they all share some common traits - one of which is the interest in control of some degree.
I don't think a simple predator is more interested in control, to get the resource he desires, than a non-predator is in getting the resource he desires.
The bully wants the control, at least, and possibly the resource as well. The predator just wants the resource. Think about a lion, does it take the gazelle, or does it bully the gazelle?
Quote from Ricter:
I don't think a simple predator is more interested in control, to get the resource he desires, than a non-predator is in getting the resource he desires.
The bully wants the control, at least, and possibly the resource as well. The predator just wants the resource. Think about a lion, does it take the gazelle, or does it bully the gazelle?
The lion takes the gazelle for the survival of itself and its pride, so there's no bullying or playing around. Besides, animals don't prey on eachother for pleasure or profit. (If only we could bring ourselves 'down' to their level, eh?)
I use a broad brush in painting the word 'predator'. There are both violent and non-violent ones, but they all seek control to varying degrees in order to take what they want.
Quote from g222:
The lion takes the gazelle for the survival of itself and its pride, so there's no bullying or playing around. Besides, animals don't prey on eachother for pleasure or profit. (If only we could bring ourselves 'down' to their level, eh?)
I use a broad brush in painting the word 'predator'. There are both violent and non-violent ones, but they all seek control to varying degrees in order to take what they want.
Yeah, but so does an herbivore seek control. It's just that plants put up a lot less fight. : )
Quote from g222:
The lion takes the gazelle for the survival of itself and its pride, so there's no bullying or playing around. Besides, animals don't prey on eachother for pleasure or profit. (If only we could bring ourselves 'down' to their level, eh?)
I use a broad brush in painting the word 'predator'. There are both violent and non-violent ones, but they all seek control to varying degrees in order to take what they want.
There are dozens of instances of killer whales, cats, most higher predators doing just that, without eating the target.
Californian sealions have a habit of ripping the fins off sunfish, which sink to the bottom and die, they dont eat them, with no record of these things being eaten by the sealions.
what do they "want"? Wheres the control?
zzz said
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This becomes an issue for our justice system only after a crime. Yes, the second time offenders do seem more of a problem, as the knee jerk reaction then is never give a person a second chance whatsoever....by killing them after the first offense.
I don't find that solution tenable. Not all criminals repeat the same crimes....so do we punish those who do reform...simply because we don't know how to help the majority who do repeat or escalate the offense?
In addition...what are the parents doing to protect their children from the first time offender...who may be the teacher, the friendly pharmacist, clergy man, etc.
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I agree parents have to be more vigilient.
But I also know that probation departments and D.A.s believe that once a molester always a molester. So I question zzz statment about giving a molester a second chance. I can tell you that 15 years ago in Riverside county and San Diego County it was taken as fact that every molester will strike again if given the opportunity. It is an institutional belief that molesters can not be cured.
It also at least widely believed that all molesters were molested.
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This becomes an issue for our justice system only after a crime. Yes, the second time offenders do seem more of a problem, as the knee jerk reaction then is never give a person a second chance whatsoever....by killing them after the first offense.
I don't find that solution tenable. Not all criminals repeat the same crimes....so do we punish those who do reform...simply because we don't know how to help the majority who do repeat or escalate the offense?
In addition...what are the parents doing to protect their children from the first time offender...who may be the teacher, the friendly pharmacist, clergy man, etc.
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I agree parents have to be more vigilient.
But I also know that probation departments and D.A.s believe that once a molester always a molester. So I question zzz statment about giving a molester a second chance. I can tell you that 15 years ago in Riverside county and San Diego County it was taken as fact that every molester will strike again if given the opportunity. It is an institutional belief that molesters can not be cured.
It also at least widely believed that all molesters were molested.