Another Angle on System Developers

True, but if you're not interested in trading, why bother?

Nitro, here's your "audited" performance. Or at least as best we can do given we don't do any trading.

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CAUTION: SELECT 'ETFS' FOR EACH CATEGORY (EXCEPT MMF) TO GET ACCURATE PERFORMANCE

Sys A, B, C, D from 2/24
Sys E from 3/3
Sys F from 5/1

Please note that the performance here is different from the hypothetical 200 stock composite we publish for each system on the website. TimerTrac does not have the ability to handle that much data. However, the ETFs are a good bellwether for hypothetical performance.

Also, the guys at TimerTrac have a pretty interesting platform (and are nice people besides). Even if you don't like what we're doing they have they keep track of 300+ other systems (some that use Profunds and Rydex for essentially commission free trading and many with track records far longer than ours) and even can trade the systems they keep track of via their trading affiliate at www.thetimer.com. If you are a timer they're a good place to get your signals tracked.

Sorry Nitro, but I think this is the best you'll get from us -- I'm not a trader and, oddly enough, don't really care to be.

Panther









Quote from gladiator:

I have to agree w/ Nitro on this... how diffucult would it be for a vendor or chatroom to actually trade 1 futures contract or a 100 shares in realtime, and then post the audited results. :confused:
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Well,

You have not backed down yet. That is more than can be said for 99.999% of the bozos that come in here with these kind of statements.

I will look at it later. Nice website...

nitro
Quote from pantherproject:

True, but if you're not interested in trading, why bother?

Nitro, here's your "audited" performance. Or at least as best we can do given we don't do any trading.

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CAUTION: SELECT 'ETFS' FOR EACH CATEGORY (EXCEPT MMF) TO GET ACCURATE PERFORMANCE

Sys A, B, C, D from 2/24
Sys E from 3/3
Sys F from 5/1

Please note that the performance here is different from the hypothetical 200 stock composite we publish for each system on the website. TimerTrac does not have the ability to handle that much data. However, the ETFs are a good bellwether for hypothetical performance.

Also, the guys at TimerTrac have a pretty interesting platform (and are nice people besides). Even if you don't like what we're doing they have they keep track of 300+ other systems (some that use Profunds and Rydex for essentially commission free trading and many with track records far longer than ours) and even can trade the systems they keep track of via their trading affiliate at www.thetimer.com. If you are a timer they're a good place to get your signals tracked.

Sorry Nitro, but I think this is the best you'll get from us -- I'm not a trader and, oddly enough, don't really care to be.

Panther
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Money management rules determine size.


peace

axeman


Quote from Aspen:

1. The thought that it is easier to "trade larger size" with a profitable system that works sounds good at first, but it still comes down to the emotion involved in placing a larger trade. If a trader has good sense, they don't go from trading 1 lots to 20 lots overnight. A losing trade at $250 that now looks like $5,000 can be a hard thing to handle and the "profitable system" that you are using quickly gets changed due to the fear in losing large amounts of money. Changing the system to suit your risk parameters does just that - it changes the system, which is not what anyone should do - you've got to stick with the original methodology to stay true to the system.
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Put up your dukes! I'm ready for you. Remember to use ETFs for the performance at TimerTrac. We do open only trading and only the ETF selections are open pricing.

Thanks about the website.

Do you think the ETs would be interested in some sort of betatest for some new things we're working on? I'd post the signals and maybe one good component from each system. Run it for three months or something so the proof would be in the pudding, so to speak.

Panther




Quote from nitro:

Well,

You have not backed down yet. That is more than can be said for 99.999% of the bozos that come in here with these kind of statements.

I will look at it later. Nice website...

nitro
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yo mate, turn on your spell check. crYptic.

Panther



Quote from agin1415:

Nitro is about as Criptic as a sledge hammer! LOL

You gotta do SIZE!

How many times do ya halfta hit them with it?
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my trading model calls for a side business. I only net about $1500 - 2000 a month average on my trading account - (I work with my IRA and a small personal account less than a $100,000). I do not sell systems, but I help you develop them. I can also test it for you $50 per hour or as a project ~20 hours (set up and manual chart verifications).
I don't sell you my system unless you want to do exactly what I am doing...if you do and want to pay me - fine. I have no worries that my system gets diluted or cease to work...
So anyone who thinks I am whoring myself just remember that once you had a job and got paid for it...expecting that I will work for you for free is silly.
Just my perspective and 2 cents
Cheers
P.S. do not ask for any VERIFICATIONS other than verified backtested results as I am not your fund manager and I am NOT soliciting/accepting money for management.
 
Or anybody. I have a theory and this is if you have a lot of buying power - 500,000 or more, you basically need no system.

You can average through a trend and finally realize a profit by laddering in and out.

To me thats not a system.

But I feel like a lot of people do it and pretend its a system, LOL!
 
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