Ann Coulter Says GOP Should Give In To Obama On Taxes: 'We Lost The Election'

Quote from Max E. Pad:

If you accept the fact that eliminating all the Bush Tax cuts would lead to a 2-3% contraction in terms of GDP, then you must accept the fact that the Bush tax cuts are providing an extra 2-3% bump in the GDP, so tell me something Bill, have you ever seen an economy go up by 2-3% without creating any jobs?

Well, no. I just think, as with any business venture, you have to increase revenues or cut spending when you're running an annual deficit. Since our way of raising revenue is tax people, we either need higher taxes or more people paying taxes. Now, I guess I just provided the conundrum we're all in, how do we do it. AND, of course we should cut spending. We have to decide where. I prefer to help Americans instead of paying off oil companies or sending money abroad.

Stimulus, whether W's $600 or whatever to each person, or Obama's method, Could be done better by providing work, infrastructure, yes, the TVA type of thing, only better. For now, then see where that leads. Don't just give out money to welfare IMO. Give everyone the respect to work for their money.
 
So Revenues went up after Bush Reagan Kennedy and Mellon Tax cuts...

Revenues went down after the very recent English tax hikes on the wealthy and came back after they rescinded them...

and now the Presidents own people say tax hikes crush GDP.

yet we still have lefties acting like its good to raise taxes...


Quote from Max E. Pad:

Christina Romer Knows Tax Hikes Will Kill the Recovery

A powerful analysis by President Barack Obama’s first Chair of his Council of Economic Advisers (CEA) indicates the President’s proposed tax increases would kill the economic recovery and throw nearly 1 million Americans out of work. Those are the extraordinary implications of academic research by Christina D. Romer, who chaired the CEA from January 28, 2009 – September 3, 2010. In a paper entitled: “The Macrcoeconomic Effects of Tax Changes” published by the prestigious American Economic Review in June 2010 (during her tenure at the White House), she stated: “In short, tax increases appear to have a very large, sustained, and highly significant negative impact on output.”

Although Dr. Romer’s analysis is full of equations and econometric jargon, the clarity of her conclusions are a fatal indictment of the Obama Administration’s demand for tax increases. In what may be the first time since David Stockman’s “Trojan Horse” comment regarding the Reagan tax rate cuts, a high White House Official has completely undermined her own Administration’s policy while serving. Had this happened during a Republican administration, a la Stockman’s Atlantic interview, it would have been Page One news. “Obama To America: Drop Dead.”

The AER paper, co-authored with her husband and fellow UC Berkeley Professor, David H. Romer, examines the impact of tax increases and reductions on U.S. economic growth for the period 1945 to 2007. One of the innovations in the paper is its focus on “exogenous” changes in taxes, that is changes in taxes that were meant to either increase the rate of economic growth (not simply offset a recession), such as the Kennedy, Reagan and Bush tax cuts, or to reduce the budget deficit, such as the Clinton tax increase. Excluded were “endogenous” tax changes that were purely countercyclical, such as the 1975 tax rebates, or were used to “offset another factor that would tend to move output growth away from normal”, such as the tax increases to finance the Korean war and the introduction of the payroll tax to finance Medicare.

“The behavior of output following these more exogenous changes indicates that tax increases are highly contractionary. The effects are strongly significant, highly robust, and much larger than those obtained using broader measures of tax changes.”

Wow! That’s about as strong a statement as you will ever read in a paper published in the AER.

The Romers’ baseline estimate suggests that a tax increase of 1% of GDP (about $160 billion in today’s economy) reduces real GDP by 3% over the next 10 quarters.

In addition, the Romers used a variety of statistical tests to take into account other factors that could influence economic growth at the time of the tax changes, including government spending, monetary policy, the relative price of oil, and even whether the President was a Democrat or Republican (it doesn’t matter much). A summary of the statistical work estimates that a tax increase of 1% of GDP would lead to a fall in output of 2.2% to 3.6% over the next 10 quarters.

“In all cases, the effect of tax changes on output remains large and highly statistically significant,” they write.


“Thus the finding that tax changes have substantial impacts on output appears to be very durable. That including controls for known output shocks has little effect on the estimated impact of tax changes is important indirect evidence that our new measure of fiscal shocks is not correlated with other factors affecting output.”
 
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Put it this way, would you atleast concede this point, if you were to take a trillion dollars, and you had the choice of either A) handing out proportional amounts to the citizens, or B) keeping it in the government so they can decide how to spend it.

Which one of the two do you think would provide quicker stimulus? Which one of the 2 do you think would have a better multiplier?

The most interesting thing to be learned here is that no lefties will even engage you on this.

Did you notice how they both replied to the first part of your post and had nothing to say about this?

LOL...
 
Quote from Haroki:

The most interesting thing to be learned here is that no lefties will even engage you on this.

Did you notice how they both replied to the first part of your post and had nothing to say about this?

LOL...
LOL back at ya.

If, for example, the populace used the money to merely deleverage, or the government used the money to build infrastructure, which one is more stimulating to the economy?
 
Quote from Ricter:

LOL back at ya.

the government used the money to build infrastructure, which one is more stimulating to the economy?

Here's an example of infrastructure. Replace all the street signs with small letters. what is the friggin point of that? what a waste of money, steel and manpower.

You know when we cut out the waste and stupidity, people will take the gov't serious.
 
Quote from Ricter:

LOL back at ya.

If, for example, the populace used the money to merely deleverage, or the government used the money to build infrastructure, which one is more stimulating to the economy?


You tell me....
 
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