Andrea Rossi: Game Changer or Mad Scientist

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When a few envelopes of white powder made their way through the US postal system, the administration was ready to overturn centuries of intellectual property rights to make sure everyone could get Cipro.

It would be...naive...to think something as monumental as this could hide behind a "licensing" arrangement.

Less than 3 months to go now....

 

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Nobody would profit more from this being real than "the current establishment". To think otherwise is incredibly naive.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I completely understand your concerns about that which is why the masses need to know what we are up against. I can also see them doing with these device what they have done with others. Why pay .15 a kwh when you could pay .05 and dropping to .01
after it's developed.

 

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Gentile accomplished something nearly impossible - he managed to get himself fired by the gov't for incompetence on the job. His role with Ampanegro is, effectively, that of paid lobbyist.

 

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User wishing to pursue legal issues with the OP or the user known as MBP may wish to contact me. I have access to email and IP addresses.

 

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Cassarino: That was two and a half years ago, that would have been late 2008 or early 2009. Rossi invited Bob and one of our scientists that works for us at the National Labs to go to Bologna where he had his factory. Of course as you can imagine, when we started talking about this, there was lots of skepticism.

You know, just because we’ve known Andrea for almost 15 years, we know what his capabilities are, and I knew he had been working on this, and one of the scientists that we had engaged had been working in this area, LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions), for 20 years. So they were real believers, and viewing all of this and just describing the science of it, they believed he did have something.

Do you have any doubt that this doesn’t work in the end?

Cassarino: We did three demonstrations here in the US, and these were non public. We did have a group of scientists here that understood exactly what was going on, and we helped actually set up the demonstrations.

Obviously we still don’t understand what’s going on inside, but he has something, and we believe that.

How do people you talk to react?

Cassarino: Obviously there are some really important people that we’ve had conversations with, who cannot be associated with this, and this is not just on government but we're finding this true also with large corporations that we’re talking with. And there are two sides of the story.

One, they want to make sure that this thing without question works. On the other side, if they pooh pooh it and say, ‘Oh, I don’t believe in it’, and then all of a sudden it comes through the fore front and people understand that they had an opportunity to help launch this and they didn’t, they lose on that side. So they’re trying to walk on this thin line.

Why have you kept silent?

Cassarino: We wanted to make

 

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We agree to disagree.

 

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The energy sector minions will kill the guy if it's not fraud. Right after the guys in Utah talked about Cold Fusion, laws were passed in the US that required that any educational institution that did research in Cold Fusion would lose it's research funding.

If I had that technology I would make units very secretly. I would then sell enough of them to every part of the world in a way that every culture would see them and realize what the capability is. I would not go to any industrial shows or show my face or reveal my identity if that is possible. I would manuf those in a third world setting somewhere and smuggle them out... I would do that for the environment if they are indeed clean...

"Right after the guys in Utah talked about Cold Fusion, laws were passed in the US that required that any educational institution that did research in Cold Fusion would lose it's research funding." ,

I don't think so. Though there were those who no doubt would have wanted such a ridiculous law to pass.

The NSF has actively supported cold fusion research, although on a somewhat "subdued level".

It's a difficult area because if any actual fusion is occurring, the fusion products are present at extremely low concentrations and thus difficult to detect, easy to miss, and subject to sampling error and contamination. The expected particle emissions have also proved difficult to detect, sporadic and non-reproducible.

The only way this research can gain credibility is for the results to be open to full discussion and review by the world's scientific community. Many mistakes in interpretation of the results have probably been made, but if interest continues, the correct explanations for exactly what is going on will eventually be found.

I'm very suspicious of this Rossi Stuff, maybe the only thing going on is exothermic absorbtion of hydrogen into nickel. They are claiming fusion of hydrogen and Ni to yield an isotope of copper. (I read their patent.) That's very strange and very different from the claims of prior investigators. Let them build a megawatt reactor, as they say they will, then we will see what the results are.

 

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Let them build a megawatt reactor, as they say they will, then we will see what the results are.

They claim they have already built "dozens" of them, and that they're sitting in a Miami warehouse.

In the end, I imagine we'll discover a lot of wet steam coming out the chimney, and that'll be that.

Less than three months to wait, now.

 

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Cassarino: Obviously there are some really important people that we’ve had conversations with, who cannot be associated with this, and this is not just on government but we're finding this true also with large corporations that we’re talking with.





Is there any company inclined to upgrade their public relations. Less profit for more business. It may be awhile.

 

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Rossi background, from NET article...Turns out the dude is, after all, a criminal...

According to his Web site, Rossi was born June 3, 1950. He wrote that he earned a bachelor's degree in 1973 in the philosophy of science and engineering from the University of Milan's School of Philosophy.

In 1979, he obtained a bachelor's degree in chemical engineering from the University of Kensington, in California. That university was determined to be a diploma mill and was shut down by officials in California and Hawaii, according to CBS News. Rossi claims to be an engineer; however, according to CBS, the school was not accredited by the Western Association of Schools and Colleges. There is no evidence that Rossi became licensed anywhere. In some countries, it is a criminal offense to claim to be an engineer without proper certification.

In the 1990s, Rossi attempted to turn industrial waste into oil. For reasons still unclear, this start-up venture didn't work out, and he ended up bankrupt and in jail. Part of the problem may have been that Rossi collected toxic waste from companies that were more than happy to give it to him rather than pay for its expensive removal. However, the waste accumulated on his property and leached into the groundwater, causing $36 million worth of damage, and he was arrested twice, according to the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera. He also may have tried to incinerate waste containing heavy metals, which would have released the toxic metals into the atmosphere.
Angelo Saso, a journalist with RAI TV in Italy, wrote to New Energy Times that a civil trial against Rossi continues in Milan.
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"The Lombardia region is trying to get back from the chemical companies that were former customers of Rossi at least part of the money (tens of millions of dollars) it has invested in the clean-up efforts," Saso wrote. "The work to clean the land is still not over."