Anderson Cooper Demolishes Texas State Rep's Birther Claims

[AMT4SWA]

Quote from Ricter:

That wouldn't help, the courts are owned by the illuminati! Can't you see how hopeless our situation is??

I am actually pulling a TOTAL "Psy Op" campaign here to demonstrat an excellent point to MANY that have common sense. I don't really care about all that stuff right now as far as barry's birth certificate goes......THEY already "selected" him for office while totally conning the public with asymetrical deception for the birth certificate issue (so you do not know which end is up).

Look at though how many will defend a false paradign they actually have not yet seen the full evidence themselves (have any of you ever seen the ORIGINAL birth certificate that barry says exists???). It is very powerful how the "group think" presented through the media can con so many into NOT NEEDING the actual facts before they INVEST their full psychological support.

For those fully satisfied with the certified COPY of obama's birth certificate then have at it....he is ALL YOURS!

For me I want all the facts that are critical to see if he is actually telling the truth or not.....so produce the ORIGINAL birth certificate (LONG form with all info) and then I will be willing to make my decision.

Standing by waiting mr pres! :eek:

 

[Range Rover]

Quote from AMT4SWA:

Absolutely.....produce the ORIGINAL vault copy long form birth certificate (which obama says exists) and then we can check it to see if it is authentic. Again, SO SO SIMPLE to resolve....it is not hard with proper document experts to see if a document is real or not.

Again,the State of Hawaii and its health dept has laws and procedures.State Law does not allow people to just walk in the health department vault and start examining documents.I have already explained to you how you can change this.

 

[AMT4SWA]

Quote from Range Rover:

Again,the State of Hawaii and its health dept has laws and procedures.State Law does not allow people to just walk in the health department vault and start examining documents.I have already explained to you how you can change this.

OBAMA can produce the original whenever he wants!


Standing by waiting mr pres! :eek:

 

[Range Rover]

Quote from AMT4SWA:


Look at though how many will defend a false paradign they actually have not yet seen the full evidence themselves

I don't need to see any evidence.The Constitution does not say I have to see evidence.The Constitution says that Congress certifies presidential elections ,and they have done so.


Congress even took it a step further






Congress: Yes, Obama Was Born in Hawaii


Yesterday, an innocuous-sounding resolution in honor of the 50th anniversary of Hawaiian statehood came up for vote on the House floor.

The resolution from Hawaii Democrat Neil Abercrombie, which Greg Sargent first reported, included this line: "Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii…"

Why is that notable? Because it's just the sort of claim that angers the birthers – the movement of folks who believe, against overwhelming evidence to the contrary, that President Obama was not really born in Hawaii, and is thus not a U.S. citizen.

The resolution ended up passing the House 378-0. Fifty-five members did not vote – but don't read too much into that, as 35 of them were Democrats.

 

[Range Rover]

Quote from AMT4SWA:

OBAMA can produce the original whenever he wants!

Making stuff up and presenting it as facts once again

 

[Range Rover]

Quote from AMT4SWA:



For me I want all the facts that are critical to see if he is actually telling the truth or not.....so produce the ORIGINAL birth certificate (LONG form with all info) and then I will be willing to make my decision.

In an article in the Honolulu Star Bulletin today, State Department of Health spokesperson Janice Okubo stated that the “Certification of Live Birth” is now the official birth certificate of Hawaii. Long forms are no longer available.

…you can’t obtain a “certificate of live birth” anymore.

The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.

The department only issues “certifications” of live births , and that is the “official birth certificate” issued by the state of Hawaii, she said.

 

[AMT4SWA]

Quote from Range Rover:

In an article in the Honolulu Star Bulletin today, State Department of Health spokesperson Janice Okubo stated that the “Certification of Live Birth” is now the official birth certificate of Hawaii. Long forms are no longer available.

…you can’t obtain a “certificate of live birth” anymore.

The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.

The department only issues “certifications” of live births , and that is the “official birth certificate” issued by the state of Hawaii, she said.

DUH....we don't care what they do in Hawaii now!


We want obama to SHOW the ORIGINAL that HE SAYS exists........S I M P L E ! ! !

1st graders can understand how simple this argument is......but you are already PSYCHOLOGICALLY INVESTED to a potential FALSE PARADIGM! :eek: BAIL OUT now and SAVE yourself.....the obama zombie plane is in a tailspin (see the last election results?). :eek:

 

[bighorn]

Quote from tmarket:

Thank you, but that is the point of the argument. The US Constitution is a wonderful document but it is full of exclusions and special rights. To gather the intent of the founders who wrote the constitution is to find support in excluding classes of people such as the poor, women and people of color from their system of government. No doubt the founders would have found objection in people such as Obama as leader of this country and if you try to use original intent as argument for disqualifying a certain group of people, you may very well succeed in an argumentative sense but not in reality in a twenty first century world.

The US Constitution “is full of exclusions and special rights” only by amendment, which is why Article Five exists; to allow the country's necessities to change over time without the need to re-write the Constitution. With that said, a rational person would have a difficult time successfully arguing the intent of Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 assuring sole allegiance is not just as valid today as it was when the founding framers adopted it, key word being sole allegiance, not race, gender or any other non sequitur put forth. As such, when examining the original intent and any subsequent writings, there is little doubt Obama does not meet the eligibility requirements of POTUS in the strict legal sense. And even though it is being allowed in practice, that doesn’t automatically imply it is constitutionally legal.

“If, in the opinion of the people, the distribution or modification of the constitutional powers be in any particular way wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. But let there be no change by ursurpation; for through this, in one instance, may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed.” President George Washington in his Farewell Address in 1796.

 

[jem]

Richter... Has Obama said that is is birth certificate?

Has he said it is accurate?



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right now what we have is hearsay about the campaign releasing a document they they apparently got from HI.

You already got the loons misrepresenting what the Supreme Court has done.

Why take any side but the correct one... which is no side until you see the evidence?

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from bighorn:

The US Constitution “is full of exclusions and special rights” only by amendment, which is why Article Five exists; to allow the country's necessities to change over time without the need to re-write the Constitution. With that said, a rational person would have a difficult time successfully arguing the intent of Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 assuring sole allegiance is not just as valid today as it was when the founding framers adopted it, key word being sole allegiance, not race, gender or any other non sequitur put forth. As such, when examining the original intent and any subsequent writings, there is little doubt Obama does not meet the eligibility requirements of POTUS in the strict legal sense. And even though it is being allowed in practice, that doesn’t automatically imply it is constitutionally legal.

“If, in the opinion of the people, the distribution or modification of the constitutional powers be in any particular way wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. But let there be no change by ursurpation; for through this, in one instance, may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed.” President George Washington in his Farewell Address in 1796.

You really should post more often.