Anderson Cooper Demolishes Texas State Rep's Birther Claims

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There are document experts that would easily be able to tell if ORIGINAL birth certificate was real or not. Hawaii in 1961 had a birth certificate form that would be very hard to duplicate and pass an experts analysis if faked (paper type, weight, information contained, etc). We could then also see who the Doctor was and the actual hospital of birth (and then question any potential witnesses....Doctor, nurses, etc).
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The stakes are so high on this, the actors involved so powerful, that it's certain we could not trust any "document expert". They themselves would have to be investigated as well. Logically, we would need to see their original vault copy birth certificate.

You can never be too skeptical.
 
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In an article in the Honolulu Star Bulletin today, State Department of Health spokesperson Janice Okubo stated that the “Certification of Live Birth” is now the official birth certificate of Hawaii. Long forms are no longer available.

…you can’t obtain a “certificate of live birth” anymore.

The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.

The department only issues “certifications” of live births , and that is the “official birth certificate” issued by the state of Hawaii, she said.

And, it’s only available in electronic form.

Okubo explained that the Health Department went paperless in 2001.

“At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting,” she said.

Information about births is transferred electronically from hospitals to the department.

“The electronic record of the birth is what (the Health Department) now keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help window for most requests,” Okubo said.

Asked for more information about the short-form versus long-form birth documents, Okubo said the Health Department “does not have a short-form or long-form certificate.”

“The birth certificate form has been modified over the years and decades to conform to national standards and models,” she said.

Okubo also emphasized the certification form “contains all the information needed by all federal government agencies for transactions requiring a birth certificate.”

She added that the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state’s current certification of live birth “as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements.”

The issue of what constitutes an official Hawaii birth certificate received national attention during last year’s presidential campaign. Those who doubted Barack Obama’s American citizenship called the copy of the Hawaii birth document posted on his campaign Web site a fake.

Asked about that document, Okubo said, “This is the same certified copy everyone receives when they request a birth certificate.”
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Keep deflecting away from the REAL story. ORIGINAL VAULT copy has ALREADY been admitted to exist so your argument is in a sad trap. We don't care about the garbage document (copy) used in Hawaii now.....we need to see the ORIGINAL......PERIOD!

obama says it exists so show the darn thing.....but he NEVER will and that is the OBVIOUS problem.
 
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We could then also see who the Doctor was and the actual hospital of birth (and then question any potential witnesses....Doctor, nurses, etc).
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The Republican Governor has already stated what hospital Obama was born in

Do you really think the doctor who delivered Obama wants his identity known so that you people can harass him,call him a liar,dig up dirt on him, release personal information on him etc ?
 
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The stakes are so high on this, the actors involved so powerful, that it's certain we could not trust any "document expert". They themselves would have to be investigated as well. Logically, we would need to see their original vault copy birth certificate.

You can never be too skeptical.
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Nope....this issue would be easy to resolve, show the ORIGINAL to those with questions like courts with legal cases pending, etc. (original birth certificate only needed for obama since he ran for president....not the document investigators.....duh!).
 
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The Republican Governor has already stated what hospital Obama was born in

Doyou really think the doctor who delivered Obama wants his identity known so that you people can harass him,call him a liar,dig up dirt on him, release personal information on him etc ?
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Who cares who said they SAW IT......just put the ORIGINAL document out for review........my gosh this is soo darn simple.......LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:
 
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Nope....this issue would be easy to resolve, show the ORIGINAL to those with questions like courts with legal cases pending, etc...
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That wouldn't help, the courts are owned by the illuminati! Can't you see how hopeless our situation is??
 
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Who cares who said they SAW IT......just put the ORIGINAL document out for review........my gosh this is soo darn simple.......LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:
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Do you understand State Law and procedures ?

Heres what you do.Elect enough state officials so that they can change Hawaiian state law and health dept procedures so that the pubic can go into the health dept's vault and view what ever documents they want to.Thats it.Now you birthers get to work
 
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There are document experts that would easily be able to tell if ORIGINAL birth certificate was real or not. Hawaii in 1961 had a birth certificate form that would be very hard to duplicate and pass an experts analysis if faked (paper type, weight, information contained, etc).
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The birther birth certificate experts have already gotten it wrong twice



The release of the certificate prompted a fresh round of questions. Believers asserted that the certificate had been digitally forged with Adobe Photoshop and lacked a stamped seal of the state, which led them to demand that Obama release his "original" 1961 birth certificate.[5] Jerome Corsi, author of the book The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality, told Fox News that "the campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website... it's been shown to have watermarks from Photoshop. It's a fake document that's on the Web site right now, and the original birth certificate the campaign refuses to produce."


This view was rejected by the state authorities, the media and independent factchecking organizations. FactCheck.org was invited to view the Obama campaign's hard copy of the candidate's Certification of Live Birth and concluded:
FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.[20]

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On August 2, 2009, Orly Taitz released and attached to court documents a purported Kenyan birth certificate which she said, if authenticated and shown to be genuine, would significantly narrow and shorten the discovery and pre-trial litigation period in the Keyes v. Bowen lawsuit.[42] Legal documents submitted describe the document as an "unauthenticated color photocopy of certified copy of registration of birth".[43][44] The document was almost immediately revealed to be a forgery. It purports to have been issued by the "Republic of Kenya", when in fact, such a state did not yet exist at the time of Obama's birth as indicated on the document (Kenya was a British Colony until 1963).[45][46] Subsequently, evidence was unearthed that the alleged Kenyan birth certificate is a modified version of a 1959 Australian birth certificate found on an online genealogy website.[47][48] The Washington Independent website cited an anonymous blogger[49] as having taken credit for the forgery and posting four photos substantiating the claim.[50] Examples of actual 1961 Kenyan birth certificates have also been revealed, which look substantially different from the document Taitz submitted to the court.[51]
 
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The birther birth certificate experts have already gotten it wrong twice



The release of the certificate prompted a fresh round of questions. Believers asserted that the certificate had been digitally forged with Adobe Photoshop and lacked a stamped seal of the state, which led them to demand that Obama release his "original" 1961 birth certificate.[5] Jerome Corsi, author of the book The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality, told Fox News that "the campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website... it's been shown to have watermarks from Photoshop. It's a fake document that's on the Web site right now, and the original birth certificate the campaign refuses to produce."


This view was rejected by the state authorities, the media and independent factchecking organizations. FactCheck.org was invited to view the Obama campaign's hard copy of the candidate's Certification of Live Birth and concluded:
FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.[20]

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On August 2, 2009, Orly Taitz released and attached to court documents a purported Kenyan birth certificate which she said, if authenticated and shown to be genuine, would significantly narrow and shorten the discovery and pre-trial litigation period in the Keyes v. Bowen lawsuit.[42] Legal documents submitted describe the document as an "unauthenticated color photocopy of certified copy of registration of birth".[43][44] The document was almost immediately revealed to be a forgery. It purports to have been issued by the "Republic of Kenya", when in fact, such a state did not yet exist at the time of Obama's birth as indicated on the document (Kenya was a British Colony until 1963).[45][46] Subsequently, evidence was unearthed that the alleged Kenyan birth certificate is a modified version of a 1959 Australian birth certificate found on an online genealogy website.[47][48] The Washington Independent website cited an anonymous blogger[49] as having taken credit for the forgery and posting four photos substantiating the claim.[50] Examples of actual 1961 Kenyan birth certificates have also been revealed, which look substantially different from the document Taitz submitted to the court.[51]
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Absolutely.....produce the ORIGINAL vault copy long form birth certificate (which obama says exists) and then we can check it to see if it is authentic. Again, SO SO SIMPLE to resolve....it is not hard with proper document experts to see if a document is real or not. :cool:
 
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